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CIVILIZED, LIBERATION OR SEXPLOITATION..????

 
 
Reply Wed 29 Mar, 2006 05:47 am
LIBERATION OR SEXPLOITATION

Today in some societies, particularly in the West a woman can walk semi-naked in public, swim topless, patronize bars and clubs, smoke, drink, dance in discos and have sex with anybody she feels like.

She can even serve her boyfriend, like an unpaid prostitute, and be free to murder her unborn baby if she falls pregnant. She can also compete in the business world by using her body to promote commercial commodities.


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At the end of the day she will be regarded as a truly 'liberated' woman!
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In Islam, however, Liberation of women is far more serious, noble and dignified than just the burning of bras as is done in the so-called permissive societies where the fair sex is regarded as no more than a sex object.

Today the West is very quick to condemn Islamic laws, which protect purity of purpose and the intermingling of the sexes at all levels of society.

Look at the glossy cover of any magazine or advertisements on TV and newspaper, you will find that most of these advertisements have scantily dressed women in alluring poses to attract the attention of men. This proves that the Western society considers woman only as a sex symbol.

The liberation of women in Islam is far superior to Western liberation as it allows women to live with respect, dignity and equality in society.

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Equality does not mean aping and behaving like men or dancing to their carnal tunes; that would be an act of inferiority in the face of one's own femininity.
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A truly liberated woman always dresses decently and modestly. A true woman will never degrade her body and sell her dignity to the highest bidder. No woman is truly liberated if she is still the slave of her wayward conscience, bodily lust or infidelity.

However, in Islam, women, whatever their role as mothers, wives, sisters or daughters, command respect and have a constructive role to play in society. The Hijab itself gives an aura of freedom to the womankind, facilitating their movement and protecting them from provocation and wanton greed of the human wolves.


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Removal of the covering of body can make you vulnerable to the lust of men.
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By removing your Hijab, you have destroyed your faith. Islam means submission to Allah (s.w.t.) in all our actions. Those who refuse submission cannot be called Muslims.

WHAT IS HIJAB(COVERING OF BODY IN ISLAM?

There are many sisters both muslims and non-muslims who have failed to understand the actual meaning of Hijab. Hijab technically means covering of body. Islam desires the preservation of social tranquility and familial peace. Hence, it asks women to cover themselves in their inter-actions with men, whom they are not related to.

WHY IS COVERING OF BODY NECESSARY?

The dangerous consequences of the Western culture of nakedness and permissiveness are before us. Think twice before blindly trying to imitate Western life-styles.

HOW SHOULD WOMEN OBSERVE COVERING THE BODY CORRECTLY?

Basically, the dress of ladies should cover the whole body except the face and hands (i.e. palms & fingers). Hair should not be exposed because Islam considers it as half of the total beauty of women. The Hijab could be of any form and color, a one-piece chader or a three-piece ensemble, as long as it is not tight fitting and does not attract people's attention.

BASELESS OBJECTIONS AGAINST COVERING OF BODY BY MUSLIM WOMEN AND CHRISTIAN NUNS

It seeks to imprison women: Those who feel that Hijab imprisons women should refrain from living in houses because it is nearer to a prison than Hijab.

It subordinates women: In fact, culture, which promotes nakedness, takes people nearer to the culture of animals. Wearing the Hijab, on the contrary, liberates women from the trap of Western fashion and maladies. It gives them greater, rather than less freedom and mobility.

Why only women? Science has confirmed that visual stimulation plays a predominant role in the physiology of men compared to women. The fact that the sex-industry in the West is targeted towards the male-market confirms it.

Victims of Ridicule: Some of our sisters come up with the excuse that the non-believers laugh at them if they observe Hijab and they feel degraded. They may laugh for a little while but after some time they will have no choice but to respect the Muslim women observing Hijab for their discipline, which could not be shaken, by their little laughs.


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Let us not forget the famous phrase: The one who laughs last laughs the longest".
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Beauty is meant to be appreciated: True! But only by the husband. Hence women who truly love their husbands would never wish to be seen in public without covering the body.

WHAT ARE THE DISADVANTAGES OF DISCARDING COVERING OF BODY?

Becoming an easy target of anti-social elements.

Causing great stresses, insecurity and suspicion in the minds of husbands, ultimately disturbing the familial harmony.

Instigating young people to deviate towards the path of lust and immorality.

Giving rise to cases of divorce, adultery, rape & illegitimate children.

WHAT ARE THE ADVANTAGES OF COVERING UP THE BODY?

Confidence in social participation as human being and not as sexual commodity.

Guarding one self from the lustful looks of men.

Not diverting people's attention from constructive social work.

Improving the moral character of the society.
In conclusion, women can achieve true dignity and experience true emancipation by observing Hijab and not by discarding it.

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COVERING ALSO FOR MEN

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In the HOLY QURAAN, God say

"Say to the believing man that they cast down their glance. Allah (s.w.t.) is aware of the things they do. Holy Qur'an (24:30) To cast down one's glance, means not to look in a fixed way, not to stare.


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The sentence means, "Tell the believers not to stare at or flirt with women."
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Allah (s.w.t.) has given equal rights to both men and women; He forbids either sex claiming supremacy over the other.


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Allah (s.w.t.) states in the Quran: "The most honored of you in the sight of Allah (s.w.t.) is (he who is) the most righteous of you." Holy Qur'an (49:13)
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1,900 raped every day in America

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Nearly 1,900 women are raped every day in America, according to a study released on Thursday that paints a much grimmer picture than US Justice Department figures announced earlier this week.
The National Victim Center, which promotes the rights of victims of violent crime, said 1.3 adult women are raped every minute and 683,000 US women are raped each year, based on a survey of more that 4,000 women, including 579 rape victims.
One in eight adult American women has been raped, bringing the total of rape victims to at least 12.1 million, it said.
The survey indicated that 61 per cent of all rape cases involve women under 18 and that 29 percent of all rapes occurred when the victim was less than 11 years old. - Reuters (Source: MID-DAY Bombay 25-4-92)
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joefromchicago
 
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Reply Wed 29 Mar, 2006 09:04 am
Re: CIVILIZED, LIBERATION OR SEXPLOITATION..????
dalahow2 wrote:
The dangerous consequences of the Western culture of nakedness and permissiveness are before us. Think twice before blindly trying to imitate Western life-styles.

I'm very interested in learning more about this "Western culture of nakedness." Can you recommend any publications?
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blacksmithn
 
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Reply Wed 29 Mar, 2006 09:15 am
joefromchicago wrote:
dalahow2 wrote:
The dangerous consequences of the Western culture of nakedness and permissiveness are before us. Think twice before blindly trying to imitate Western life-styles.

I'm very interested in learning more about this "Western culture of nakedness." Can you recommend any publications?
Try this:

http://www.independentmuslim.com/images/playboy.jpg
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joefromchicago
 
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Reply Wed 29 Mar, 2006 09:40 am

Allah be praised!
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Setanta
 
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Reply Wed 29 Mar, 2006 09:54 am
So, like, Allah (APBUH) created the naked human form, and then instructed the Prophet (PBUH) that we should cover nearly every square inch of our naked bodies, to avoid triggering the obsessive lust of a handful of tribal savages who subscribe to Islam, eh?

I don't think so.
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echi
 
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Reply Wed 29 Mar, 2006 10:23 am
dalahow2--

If the sight of a woman's naked body causes some men to lose their mind in a fit of erotic fantasy, that is not the woman's problem. Such reactions are likely the result of the same type of repression and censorship that you are promoting.
What will happen when all women are covered, as you describe, and these men, nevertheless, become agitated by women's hands, or eyes, or merely by their presence? By your reasoning, if a woman truly values her freedom she should stay locked-up in her house.
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Wed 29 Mar, 2006 10:25 am
I like wimmins.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Wed 29 Mar, 2006 10:27 am
Actually, King Echi, that is not at all far fetched--that is very nearly exactly how many women live in the Muslim world. And then there's purdah
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Wolf ODonnell
 
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Reply Wed 29 Mar, 2006 10:31 am
What dalahow2 forgets, is that Christian women were once as covered up as Muslim women were. Granted their entire heads weren't covered, but then again, it is not necessary for Muslim women to cover their entire head either (a mere scarf over the head will suffice).

Back then, just a tiny little article of clothing missing was seen as indecent and got men salivating, because that was about as raunchy as they were going to get.

Notice how this behaviour you talk of either does not exist (swimming topless) or did not exist until recently, which merely shows that children aren't being taught proper manners and respect.

Women didn't need to cover themselves in the second half of the last century and they still don't need to.

Dalahow2, you also forget to recognise those raped in Muslim countries. I'm betting there are no statistics, because the Islamic theocracies do not want anybody to know their embarrassing problems.
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Wolf ODonnell
 
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Reply Wed 29 Mar, 2006 10:33 am
And yes, I've known Muslim women and they have never seen the need to completely swathe themselves in cloth from head to toe with only their eyes visible.

(My Mother, but she's not a good example, coz she's kinda racist, always thought that those type of Muslim women were really suited to robbing banks).

Yeah. Maz. The only thing she didn't have to worry about was a bad hair day. Her head was the only thing covered.

You'll also realise that many non-Arabic Muslims merely wear just head-scarves and are equally as devout.
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Doktor S
 
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Reply Wed 29 Mar, 2006 10:47 am
So, according to dalahow here...
Muslim women are more free and 'liberated' because of how they are 'not' allowed to act and what they are 'not' allowed to do?
Oh boy, that's rich.
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Doktor S
 
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Reply Wed 29 Mar, 2006 10:49 am
I think this dudes IMAM gave him a shoddy definition of the word 'liberty'.
Or do muslims even have a word for that? Wink
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DontTreadOnMe
 
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Reply Thu 30 Mar, 2006 03:12 pm
Doktor S wrote:
So, according to dalahow here...
Muslim women are more free and 'liberated' because of how they are 'not' allowed to act and what they are 'not' allowed to do?
Oh boy, that's rich.


WAR IS PEACE
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH
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dalahow2
 
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Reply Thu 30 Mar, 2006 03:58 pm
modesty
Setanta wrote:
So, like, Allah (APBUH) created the naked human form, and then instructed the Prophet (PBUH) that we should cover nearly every square inch of our naked bodies, to avoid triggering the obsessive lust of a handful of tribal savages who subscribe to Islam, eh?

I don't think so.


Setanta,

If Allah created people naked...Then walk naked..Why should you wear semi-naked..God himself has instructed that we should cover...ask him please...

When talking about Islamic dress codes, Please look at the modesty side.It is never about making men raunchy.But we need to look at maintaining beauty for your man alone.You would love your man to keep "everything for you alone"..Likewise we want all the ladies to just maintain "chaste" with the covering.

Now everyone can make abuses or make "jest" and jokes about islamic covering but what we are infact saying, many people have started putting them on..after considering why and what precipitated the covering itself...

Go on..It is never too late.Some people take time to actually start wearing them..

Smile Smile
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Doktor S
 
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Reply Thu 30 Mar, 2006 06:56 pm
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But we need to look at maintaining beauty for your man alone.You would love your man to keep "everything for you alone"..Likewise we want all the ladies to just maintain "chaste" with the covering.

Ahh so it is about keeping ones property private.
That really sheds light on your position.
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daniellejean
 
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Reply Thu 30 Mar, 2006 09:02 pm
A covered woman does not a chaste woman make! I know plenty of women who dress modestly and have plenty of sex. They aren't muslims or christians, but the point is still valid. Just because somebody dresses scantily does not mean that they are a slut either. Only God and the woman knows whether she is chaste or not (and sometimes her husband). But the way she dresses is not always an indication of that as you say it is.
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dalahow2
 
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Reply Fri 31 Mar, 2006 10:20 am
^It is just as simple as A, B, C,

Smile If at all someone dresses, let him/her dress in modest..

If you wanna strip...why leave some few on you...

Better leave it off... Very Happy Very Happy
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DrewDad
 
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Reply Fri 31 Mar, 2006 11:04 am
The hajib is nothing more than low-tech sunscreen.

Send 'em some Banana Boat, and they'll make Tehran look like Rio de Janiero.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Fri 31 Mar, 2006 11:10 am
Re: modesty
dalahow2 wrote:
Setanta wrote:
So, like, Allah (APBUH) created the naked human form, and then instructed the Prophet (PBUH) that we should cover nearly every square inch of our naked bodies, to avoid triggering the obsessive lust of a handful of tribal savages who subscribe to Islam, eh?

I don't think so.


Setanta,

If Allah created people naked...Then walk naked..Why should you wear semi-naked..God himself has instructed that we should cover...ask him please...

When talking about Islamic dress codes, Please look at the modesty side.It is never about making men raunchy.But we need to look at maintaining beauty for your man alone.You would love your man to keep "everything for you alone"..Likewise we want all the ladies to just maintain "chaste" with the covering.

Now everyone can make abuses or make "jest" and jokes about islamic covering but what we are infact saying, many people have started putting them on..after considering why and what precipitated the covering itself...

Go on..It is never too late.Some people take time to actually start wearing them..

(idiotic emoticons removed in the interest of good taste)


This is so delusional, one hardly knows where to begin. So "god" says so, eh? How do you know that? Do you assert that "god" told you so? Why should we believe that? What proof do you offer?

Precisely what purpose does a concept of modesty serve? Who is authorized to determine what is modest and what is immodest? You ? ! ? ! ? You're so eaten up with your "god" delusions that i wouldn't trust you to walk my dogs.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Fri 31 Mar, 2006 11:11 am
Doktor S wrote:
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But we need to look at maintaining beauty for your man alone.You would love your man to keep "everything for you alone"..Likewise we want all the ladies to just maintain "chaste" with the covering.

Ahh so it is about keeping ones property private.
That really sheds light on your position.


Additionally, one assumes that Dalahow either cannot conceive of or does not intend to countenance the concept of Lesbians.
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