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Mail letters for free?

 
 
Chumly
 
Reply Wed 22 Mar, 2006 06:22 pm
If you put your address in the middle and their address in the top left, can you mail a letter for free?
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fishin
 
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Reply Wed 22 Mar, 2006 07:34 pm
Depends on where you are mailing to and from. If you drop it off at your local post office they will deliver it to you with postage due!
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Chumly
 
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Reply Wed 22 Mar, 2006 07:37 pm
I live in Canada and I do not have a mail box, but a central common box down the street, does that change anything?
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fishin
 
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Reply Wed 22 Mar, 2006 07:41 pm
I dunno. I'd doubt it would change much. I don't know if the Canadian Postal service will send mail "postage due".

Here they will deliver it because it is a local delivery and then they want the recipient to pay for it instead of mailing it back to the supposed originator.
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Intrepid
 
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Reply Wed 22 Mar, 2006 10:02 pm
You will be charged postage due in Canada. Also, mail fraud is a federal offense.
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Montana
 
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Reply Wed 22 Mar, 2006 10:05 pm
Don't think I'll be trying that.
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Chumly
 
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Reply Wed 22 Mar, 2006 10:43 pm
I saw a comedian make a joke of it on the comedy channel that's how the idea came about. Intrepid, I looked up mail fraud and it's pursuant to consumer protection laws such as fraudulent solicitation i.e. defrauding people with gasoline voucher incentive programs.

Where do the mail fraud laws apply to postage?

Protection Against Fraud
Most marketers are honest business people, but you must protect yourself and your loved ones from fraud. The following are some tips on spotting fraudulent activity.
Recognizing a scam
Here are some classic signs of a criminal fraudster:

It sounds too good to be true
 You've won a big prize in a contest that you don't recall entering.
 You're offered a once-in-a-lifetime investment that offers a huge return.
 You're told that you can buy into a lottery ticket pool that cannot lose.

http://www.canadapost.ca/corporate/about/security/fraud-e.asp
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timberlandko
 
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Reply Wed 22 Mar, 2006 10:53 pm
Taking action to circumvent legislated postal tarrifs is contrary to law and constitutes a form of postal fraud.

Now, if you wanna have some postal fun, without irritating the post office or the Feds, wrap a typical 3-pound building brick in brown paper, observing postal recommendations for wrapping parcels for mail, then affix to the package one of those prepaid postage return address lables from some junkmail solicitation and mail it off to the original sender of the junkmail. Your maibox will see no more from that advertiser, and you'll get a bit of a chuckle.
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Montana
 
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Reply Wed 22 Mar, 2006 10:57 pm
Twisted Evil
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Chumly
 
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Reply Wed 22 Mar, 2006 10:57 pm
Would it be fraudulent to send doggy do?

(this thread is getting weird but I don't care)
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Montana
 
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Reply Wed 22 Mar, 2006 10:58 pm
This thread seems perfectly normal to me :-)
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Chumly
 
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Reply Thu 23 Mar, 2006 12:00 am
Were both in deep do-do then!
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Montana
 
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Reply Thu 23 Mar, 2006 06:11 am
You may be right Laughing
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Intrepid
 
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Reply Tue 28 Mar, 2006 03:58 pm
Chumly wrote:
Would it be fraudulent to send doggy do?

(this thread is getting weird but I don't care)


See for yourself


Deficient Postage Regulations
SOR/85-567
CANADA POST CORPORATION ACT
Deficient Postage Regulations

REGULATIONS RESPECTING MAILABLE MATTER BEARING NO POSTAGE OR INSUFFICIENT POSTAGE

SHORT TITLE

1. These Regulations may be cited as the Deficient Postage Regulations.

INTERPRETATION

2. In these Regulations,

"deficient postage" means the amount by which the postage payable on mailable matter has not been paid; (affranchissement insuffisant)

"deficient postage item" means any item of mailable matter having deficient postage. (envoi insuffisamment affranchi) SOR/2000-199, s. 26.

APPLICATION

3. These Regulations apply in respect of mailable matter posted in Canada for transmission by post and delivery in or outside Canada. SOR/87-158, s. 1; SOR/87-683, s. 1; SOR/88-435, s. 1; SOR/90-11, s. 1.

GENERAL CONDITIONS

4. Subject to subsection 5(1), a deficient postage item shall be returned to the sender.

5. (1) A deficient postage item shall be forwarded to the addressee where
(a) a charge is payable pursuant to the Undeliverable and Redirected Mail Regulations for redirected mail;
(b) the item bears no return address; or
(c) the addressee has agreed, by means of a written service agreement, to accept deficient postage items and pay to the Corporation the amount referred to in subsection (3).

(2) Where a deficient postage item is forwarded to the addressee pursuant to paragraph (1)(a) or (b) and accepted by the addressee, the deficient postage plus the deficient postage rate set out in section 6 are payable by the addressee.

(3) Where, pursuant to paragraph (1)(c), a deficient postage item is forwarded to the addressee, the amount specified in the agreement referred to in paragraph (1)(c) plus the deficient postage rate set out in section 6 are payable by the addressee.

(4) Notwithstanding subsections (2) and (3), where a deficient postage item is posted in Canada for transmission by post and delivery outside Canada, the deficient postage rate shall not apply. SOR/88-435, s. 2.

DEFICIENT POSTAGE RATE

6. The rate for a deficient postage item that is forwarded to the addressee pursuant to section 5 is the rate established by the Corporation. SOR/88-435, s. 3; SOR/90-11, s. 2; SOR/90-797, s. 1; SOR/91-623, s. 1; SOR/91-637, s. 1.



Non-mailable Matter Regulations
SOR/90-10
Registration 14 December, 1989
Non-mailable Matter Regulations
P.C. 1989-2452 14 December, 1989

Whereas, pursuant to section 20 of the Canada Post Corporation Act, a copy of the proposed Regulations respecting non-mailable matter, substantially in the form set out in the schedule hereto, was published in the Canada Gazette Part I on July 22, 1989 and a reasonable opportunity was thereby afforded to interested persons to make representations to the Minister of Regional Industrial Expansion with respect thereto;

Therefore, Her Excellency the Governor General in Council, on the recommendation of the Minister of Regional Industrial Expansion, pursuant to subsection 19(1) of the Canada Post Corporation Act, is pleased hereby to approve the revocation of the Prohibited Mail Regulations, C.R.C., c. 1289, and to approve the annexed Regulations respecting non-mailable matter, made by the Canada Post Corporation, effective January 1, 1990.

REGULATIONS RESPECTING NON-MAILABLE MATTER

SHORT TITLE

1. These Regulations may be cited as the Non-mailable Matter Regulations.

INTERPRETATION

2. In these Regulations, "letter-post item" has the same meaning as in the International Letter-post Items Regulations. (envoi de la poste aux lettres) SOR/90-799, s. 1.

NON-MAILABLE MATTER

3. For the purposes of the Canada Post Corporation Act and the regulations under that Act, the items set out in the schedule are non-mailable matter.

DISPOSITION OF NON-MAILABLE MATTER

4. Any non-mailable matter found in course of post, other than non-mailable matter that is seized under the Customs Act, shall be disposed of as follows:

(a) any non-mailable matter included in item 1 of the schedule shall be destroyed or disposed of in a manner that does not expose any person or property or the environment to danger;
(b) any non-mailable matter included in item 2 of the schedule shall be delivered to an association for the protection of animals or any other facility that shelters or looks after animals;
(c) any non-mailable matter included in item 3 of the schedule shall, where its outside cover bears a return address, be returned to the sender or, where its outside cover does not bear a return address, be destroyed;
(d) any non-mailable matter included in item 4 of the schedule shall be delivered to a police officer, a peace officer or the competent authority, as applicable; and
(e) any non-mailable matter included in item 5 of the schedule shall, where its outside cover bears a return address, be returned to the sender or, where its outside cover does not bear a return address, be disposed of in accordance with the Undeliverable and Redirected Mail Regulations. SOR/98-557, s. 1.

5. Where any non-mailable matter is returned to the Corporation by a customs officer, it shall be held by the Corporation

(a) for 30 days, or
(b) where legal proceedings in which the non-mailable matter may be required are commenced before and continued after the expiration of the 30 days referred to in paragraph (a), until the final disposition of those proceedings,and thereafter shall be disposed of in accordance with section 4. SOR/92-695, s. 1(F); SOR/2002-166, s. 1.

6. Where any non-mailable matter that contains an intoxicating beverage is returned to the Corporation by a customs officer, it shall be

(a) returned to the country of origin where the addressee so requests and pays the return postage therefor; or
(b) held for 30 days and thereafter destroyed, unless within that time the addressee requests that it be returned to the country of origin and pays the return postage therefor.

SCHEDULE
(ss. 3 to 5)
NON-MAILABLE MATTER

Item
Non-mailable Matter

1.
(1)
Dangerous goods as defined in the Transportation of Dangerous Goods Act or the regulations made thereunder, except where, in accordance with that Act and those regulations,

(a) the sender of the dangerous goods offers them to the Corporation for transport; and

(b) the Corporation is capable of handling and transporting the dangerous goods.

(2)
Items that, because of the manner in which they are packed, may expose a person to danger or may damage mail or postal equipment.

(3)
Letter-post items or parcels that contain dangerous or perishable items prohibited by article 25 of the Universal Postal Convention (Beijing, 1999) and by articles XII and XIII of the Final Protocol of that Convention.

(4)
Items that may soil mail or postal equipment.

(5)
Items that emit offensive odours.

(6)
Fish, game, meat, fruit, vegetables, perishable biological substances or other perishable items that are not prepared for posting in accordance with the applicable requirements of the current Canada Postal Guide -- Guide des postes du Canada, published by the Corporation.

2.
(1)
Live animals, other than live animals that are accepted for transmission by post pursuant to an agreement with the Corporation or that are referred to in the current Canada Postal Guide -- Guide des postes du Canada, published by the Corporation and are prepared for posting in accordance with the applicable requirements set out in that guide.

(2)
Letter-post items or parcels that contain live animals prohibited by article 25 of the Universal Postal Convention (Beijing, 1999) and by articles XII and XIII of the Final Protocol of that Convention.

3.
(1)
Items that have on their outside cover
(a)
anything written or printed or attached thereto, other than the name and address of the addressee and of the sender or endorsements or attachments that are authorized by or under applicable regulations or by the Corporation;
(b)
on the address side thereof, a stamp of a charity or some other non-postal stamp indicating value;
(c)
in the space reserved for postage stamps, stamps or stickers of private manufacture;
(d)
hand-stamped or printed facsimiles of postal cancelling or franking stamps; or
(e)
successive addresses.

(2)
Envelopes with windows, unless
(a)
each window has a transparent covering; and
(b)
the longest sides of the window through which the address is visible are parallel to the longest sides of the envelope.

(2.1) Letter-post items in wholly transparent envelopes, unless
(a)
the envelopes are constructed in such a way that they can be easily handled while in the course of transmission by post; and
(b)
a label is securely attached to the outer surface of the envelope and the label has sufficient space to include the name and address of the addressee, the postage and any applicable service instructions.

(3)
[Repealed, SOR/2002-166, s. 2]

(4)
Letter-post items and parcels, other than those referred to in subitems 1(3) and 2(2), that contain matter prohibited by article 25 of the Universal Postal Convention (Beijing, 1999) and articles XII and XIII of the Final Protocol of that Convention.

4.
Any item transmitted by post in contravention of an Act or a regulation of Canada.

5.
Gold bullion, gold dust and non-manufactured precious metals unless accepted for transmission by post pursuant to an agreement with the Corporation.

6.
At any time during which a notice of interruption of postal services given pursuant to the Postal Services Interruption Regulations is in effect, any item that has not been posted that would, but for this item, be mailable matter and that, because of the interruption of postal services, cannot be transmitted by post from or to an area in which the interruption of postal services is in effect.


SOR/90-799, ss. 2 to 4; SOR/92-695, ss. 2, 3, 4(F); SOR/94-201, ss. 1, 2; SOR/95-309, ss. 1, 2; SOR/98-557, ss. 2, 3; SOR/2000-199, ss. 29, 30; SOR/2002-166, s. 2; SOR/2003-382, ss. 23 to 25.
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Chumly
 
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Reply Tue 28 Mar, 2006 04:17 pm
I believe blood, urine, feces etc. samples are sent via mail and there are no issues if packed correctly. Do you think we could send a cadaver and see what happens?
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TRUTH276
 
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Reply Sat 29 Dec, 2012 11:24 pm
@Chumly,
if you write hedge in a box where the stamp goes write it in black ink then draw crisscrosses through the empty space above and below hedge in blue ink the system used to check postage will believe you stamped it.
NOTE-YOU MUST PUT A BLACK BOX THE SIZE OF A STAMP WHERE A STAMP GOES WITH ABOVE DRAWING IN IT.
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