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kevnmoon,

Can you show me where it states that fact in the Bible?

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kevnmoon wrote:

Raul-7 wrote:
But Moses is the only one to speak to God directly.

What do you say the Prophet Mohammed's ascension ? MIRAC.. Also saw GOD directly.. and also without all causes. GAbriel said If I come with you I burn.. ??

Than I investigated and Prof. Dr. Süleyman Ateş says there is no evidence anyone speak with GOD but Moses..
also this speaking behind curtains. O.K. I corrected.. But Our Prophet saw him.....

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Momma Angel wrote:

kevnmoon,

Can you show me where it states that fact in the Bible?

In Qur'an ''chapter Nisa 164''.. He adressed to Moses..

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kevnmoon,

The Bible, kevnmoon, can you show me that in the Holy Bible?

I appreciate the commitment that you have to your religion. I can respect that. I will not engage in a battle with you about who's God is bigger or better, etc., so I will say this:

I believe that God is so pure that no living man could look upon His face and live.

And Peace be with you always.

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what about the book i cited??

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brahmin,

I am sorry. I completely missed that post. I am reading now and will get back with you. My apologies.

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Momma Angel wrote:

kevnmoon,

The Bible, kevnmoon, can you show me that in the Holy Bible?

I believe that God is so pure that no living man could look upon His face and live.

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I can't show from Bible.. I don't know..
And also for Muhammed Prophet in one book it is said
''This fruit has brought to the universe and mankind a treasury, a gift of pre-eternal and post-eternal Light, which is to see with the eyes the truths of the pillars of belief and to behold the angels, Paradise, the hereafter, and even the All-Glorious One.'' BSN 31. word .Fourth Principle.FIRST FRUIT

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That is my point, kevnmoon. You have your holy book and I have mine. We both believe with all of our hearts and cannot sway one another. Peace be with you always.

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I am Muslim.. So my first duty is to believe all Prophets and all Books which was send by GOD.

In my believing if I say a little wrong about one of the Prophet.. become Everything and pray is useless.

Because my aim is not Prophet.. Prophets.. Only difference is I try to act according to last book.

Your orginal book is also my book. With all my good intend.

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Understood kevnmoon, completely understood. You have my respect.

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flushd wrote:

kevnmoon,
What do you mean ...

Middle East is so mixed. Not only about muslims also about every groups.
If you add all social factors, you find all kind of problems.. I look to Iraq, I don't understand anything and I pray for them not to kill each other all the time.. Peace is my own character.

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kevnmoon wrote:

I am Muslim.. So my first duty is to believe all Prophets and all Books which was send by GOD.

In my believing if I say a little wrong about one of the Prophet.. become Everything and pray is useless.

Because my aim is not Prophet.. Prophets.. Only difference is I try to act according to last book.

Your orginal book is also my book. With all my good intend.

Correct! We are supposed to respect all the prophets sent down by Allah equally, as in the following verse:

"Say: we believe in God and in what has been revealed to us, and what was revealed to Abraham, Isma'il: Isaac, Jacob and The Tribes, and in (the Books) given to Moses, Jesus and the Prophets, from their Lord: We make no distinction between one and another, among them, and to God do we bow our will (in Islam)." (Qur'an, Al-'Imran 3:84)

But the point of the post was that Jesus is not the son of God, such as in the following Biblical verse:

"And the devils also came out of many, crying out, and saying, Thou art Christ the Son of God. And he rebuking them suffered them not to speak; for they knew that he was Christ." (Luke 4:11)

And-

"He [Jesus] said unto them [the disciples], But whom say ye that I am? Peter answering said, The Christ of God. And he straightly charged them, and commanded them to tell no man that thing." (Luke 9:20 and 21).

Or is Luke's Bible off limits?

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I guess it is. Wink

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kevnmoon wrote:

I am Muslim.. So my first duty is to believe all Prophets and all Books which was send by GOD.

In my believing if I say a little wrong about one of the Prophet.. become Everything and pray is useless.

Because my aim is not Prophet.. Prophets.. Only difference is I try to act according to last book.

Your orginal book is also my book. With all my good intend.

Kevn, what do you use to determine which books come from god?

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4 books :

Zebur : David (A.S) lost

the Pentateuch : Moses (A.S).. not orginal now

Gospel : Jesus (A.S) .. not orginal now

Qur'an : Muhammed (A.S.M) orginal

and also some pages which was given to other some Prophets..

It is said 10 page was given to ADAM (A.S.)

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100 pages was send to other Prohets. 10 of is to ADAM (A.S.) .

So I believe all of them and ve to protect them.

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Sorry Kevn,

I meant how do you know these are true while others are false?

(How, not which)

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Which books are false ? Are they falsificated books as Gospel ? or some books which was said by some people ?

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At first our Prophet talks about a lot of Prophet.. He says there r 124000 Prophets passed from earth.

So,also in Gospel book, our prophet is told as Faraklit..

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Kevn,

How do you decide what is true? All or none of these prophets may be lying or insane. How do you know?

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