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Are the Jews G-d's chosen people?

 
 
Reply Fri 17 Mar, 2006 11:15 am
I came across this site today, can someone please explain this to me, i kinda feel sick...

Three Russian Jews and eight Italian Jews were arrested after police discovered they had been kidnapping non-Jewish children between the ages of two and five years old from Russian orphanges, raping the children, and then murdering them on film. Mostly non-Jewish customers, including 1700 nationwide, 600 in Italy, and and unknown number in the United States, paid as much as $20,000 per film to watch little children being raped and murdered.

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Jewish Gangsters Raped, Killed Children As Young As 2 On Film

JEWISH CHILD PORN / SNUFF FILM RING DISCOVERED

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Archive/Article/0,4273,4070446,00.html


Jews are these facts true ?

1). "The Jews are called human beings, but the non-Jews are not humans. They are beasts." (Talmud: Baba Mezia 114b)

2). "The Akum (Negro) is like a dog. Yes, the scripture teaches to honor the dog more than the Akum." (Ereget Raschi Erod. 22
30)

3). "Even though God created the non-Jew they are still animals in human form. It is not becoming for a Jew to be served by an
animal. Therefore he will be served by animals in human form." (Midrasch Talpioth, p. 255, Warsaw 1855)

4). "A pregnant non-Jew is no better than a pregnant animal." (Coschen Hamischpat 405)

5). "The souls of non-Jews come from impure spirits and are called pigs." (Jalkut Rubeni gadol 12b)

6). "Although the non-Jew has the same body structure as the Jew, they compare with the Jew like a monkey to a human." (Schene
Luchoth Haberith, p. 250b)

So that the Jew will never forget that he is dealing with animals, he is reminded by eating, by death, and even by sexual intercourse constantly. For The Talmud teaches:

1). "If you eat with a non-Jew, it is the same as eating with a dog." (Tosapoth, Jebamoth 94b)

2). "If a Jew has a non-Jewish servant of maid who dies, one should not express sympathy to the Jew. You should tell to the Jew:
?God will replace ?your loss,' just as if one of his oxen or asses had died." (Jore Dea 377, 1)

3). "Sexual intercoms between non-Jews is like intercourse between animals." (Sanhedrin 74b)

It is written in the Talmud about the murder of the non-Jew:

1). "It is permitted to take the body and the life of a non-Jew." (Sepher Ikkarim IIIc, 25)

2). "It is the law to kill anyone who denies the Torah (Talmud - Sanhedrin 59b). The Christians
belong to the denying ones of the Torah (Talmud)." (Coschen Hamischpat 425, Hagah 425, 5)

3). "Every Jew, who spills the blood of the godless (non-Jew), is doing the same as making a sacrifice to God." (Bammidber Raba, c 21 & Jalkut 772)

These laws of the Talmud were given to the Jews over 3000 years ago. They are just as valid today as they were back then. This is how the Jews are taught from childhood. The results of this stands before us. It is Jewish Ritual Murder.

http://www.thewatcherfiles.com/jewish_sacrifice.htm

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Is this also true ?

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According to the Talmudic En-cyclopedia: 'He who has carnal knowledge of the wife of a Gentile is not liable to the death penalty, for it is written: "thy fellow's wife" rather than the alien's wife; and even the precept that a man "shall cleave unto his wife" which is addressed to the Gentiles does not apply to a Jew, just there is no matrimony for a heathen; and al-though a married Gentile woman is forbidden to the Gentiles, in any case a Jew is exemp-ted.' This does not imply that sexual inter-course between a Jewish man and a Gentile woman is permitted - quite the contrary. But the main punishment is inflicted on the Gentile woman; she must be executed, even if she was raped by the Jew: 'If a Jew has coitus with a Gentile woman, whether she be a child of three or an adult, whether married or unmar-ried, and even if he is a minor aged only nine years and one day - because he had willful coitus with her, she must be killed, as is the case with a beast, because through her a Jew got into trouble. The Jew, however, must be flogged, and if he is a Kohen (member of the priestly tribe) he must receive double the number of lashes, because he has committed a double offense: a Kohen must not have inter-course with a prostitute, and all Gentile wo-men are presumed to be prostitutes.

Israel Shahak, Jewish History, Jewish Religion, Pluto Press, London 1994, page 87
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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Fri 17 Mar, 2006 11:19 am
Does it matter if they were Jewish or not? What matters is the crime they committed against these children and society. There are (I would be so bold as to assume) child molesters and murderers in any religion just as there are child molesters and murderers among the non-religious.

I have no clue as to the verses you referenced. I do not read that particular text.
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freedom4free
 
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Reply Fri 17 Mar, 2006 11:24 am
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Does it matter if they were Jewish or not?


If the Talmud encourages these acts, then yes is does matter.

http://www.ety.com/HRP/jewishstudies/snuffporn.htm
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blacksmithn
 
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Reply Fri 17 Mar, 2006 11:27 am
Isn't this just a variation on anti-Semitic tales that have been making the rounds-- and used to excuse any number of pogroms-- since the Middle Ages? This nonsense has a distinct "Protocols of the Elders of Zion" feel to it.
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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Fri 17 Mar, 2006 11:31 am
If a religion encouraged these acts (such as the snuff films, etc.) that would be a pretty good indication to me that it's not a religion I would want to be part of. I would assume the same thought would be implanted in your mind?

I have no problem with criminal acts being brought to the surface. I do applaud you for at least asking if those verses were true. You are giving someone the opportunity to tell you how it is for them instead of deciding for yourself based only on what you see in black and white.

Something you might also want to keep in mind is (like in my religion) we are to obey the law of the land first. I don't believe Christianity tells me to go out and kill anyone or hurt anyone. I have to follow the laws of the land unless they are in direct conflict with God's laws. Anyone that could justify what these men did with the word of God, is obviously not listening to WHO and WHAT God is IMO. I don't like to see headlines like these become more sensationalized due to religion, any religion, whether it be Jewish, Muslim, Buddhist, Christianity, etc.
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freedom4free
 
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Reply Fri 17 Mar, 2006 11:35 am
yes, Momma Angel, i asked if this was true, and if any jewish members can refute these lies.

However, the Guardian article is a credible source, the story cannot be refuted.
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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Fri 17 Mar, 2006 11:40 am
I'm not saying the story can be refuted freedom4free. What I am saying is, there is quite possibly an interpretation to the verses that you quoted other than what you obviously think they say. For instance, are these old laws that are no longer in effect? I know nothing of the Jewish religion. I'm very curious as to the answers you are seeking and am glad you asked them.
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freedom4free
 
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Reply Fri 17 Mar, 2006 11:43 am
Momma Angel wrote:
I'm not saying the story can be refuted freedom4free. What I am saying is, there is quite possibly an interpretation to the verses that you quoted other than what you obviously think they say. For instance, are these old laws that are no longer in effect? I know nothing of the Jewish religion. I'm very curious as to the answers you are seeking and am glad you asked them.


Yep, agreed, i hope someone will correct the 'anti-Semitism' quotes.
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Cliff Hanger
 
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Reply Fri 17 Mar, 2006 11:51 am
Where's you get this crap? Off the Web?

I think this is a bullshit post. Are you trying to be amusing? Because it makes you look like a jerk.
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Cliff Hanger
 
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Reply Fri 17 Mar, 2006 11:53 am
Momma Angel, did you even click on the link he provided? He's manipulated it-- absolute bullshit.
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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Fri 17 Mar, 2006 11:56 am
Cliff Hanger,

Yes, I did click on the links. He manipulated it? How? I don't know that much about computers and such.

Why would someone do that? Freedom4free? Is Cliff Hanger correct or incorrect about this?
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freedom4free
 
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Reply Fri 17 Mar, 2006 11:57 am
Cliff Hanger wrote:
Where's you get this crap? Off the Web?

I think this is a bullshit post. Are you trying to be amusing? Because it makes you look like a jerk.


You seem very confident, hope you are going to debunk this bullshit.
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blacksmithn
 
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Reply Fri 17 Mar, 2006 11:57 am
http://members.tripod.com/JCRelations/blood.html

A history of similar such anti-semitic claptrap.
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jespah
 
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Reply Fri 17 Mar, 2006 12:02 pm
Momma Angel wrote:
Cliff Hanger,

Yes, I did click on the links. He manipulated it? How? I don't know that much about computers and such.

Why would someone do that? Freedom4free? Is Cliff Hanger correct or incorrect about this?


I looked at that article and didn't see word one about anyone doing this who was Jewish or of any religion, for that matter. So, where's that info coming from?
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Cliff Hanger
 
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Reply Fri 17 Mar, 2006 12:03 pm
Momma Angel wrote:
Cliff Hanger,

Yes, I did click on the links. He manipulated it? How? I don't know that much about computers and such.

Why would someone do that? Freedom4free? Is Cliff Hanger correct or incorrect about this?


Momma Angel the only mention of origiins are Russian. Dind-dong added the headline.
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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Fri 17 Mar, 2006 12:03 pm
I don't mean to sound naive or stupid here but can someone explain to me why anyone (not saying freedom4free is doing it - he hasn't said) would do such a thing? What is the motivating factor behind this? Is it hatred of God? Hatred of religion? Is hatred even the correct word? Why would anyone want to actually make up something like this to hurt others?

We talk of a world of tolerance and peace and yet, this is one of the most intolerant things I've seen.
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Fri 17 Mar, 2006 12:05 pm
Cliff Hanger wrote:
Momma Angel, did you even click on the link he provided? He's manipulated it-- absolute bullshit.


Yep. Time for Freedom4free to explain why he implied the Guardian link said one word about Jews.

MA: Some people hate/fear Jews.
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jespah
 
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Reply Fri 17 Mar, 2006 12:05 pm
It hasn't got a damned thing to do with religion.

There are sick people in this world. That's the explanation for it. There are evil people. And that's the rest of the explanation. Doesn't have shinola to do with any religion, it just has to do with individuals being sick and twisted. That's all.
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freedom4free
 
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Reply Fri 17 Mar, 2006 12:06 pm
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Freedom4free? Is Cliff Hanger correct or incorrect about this?


People on the web claim these quotes come direct from the Talmud, hundreds of websites claim this, i just wanted someone who is hopefully Jewish, to debunk the quotes and find the correct quotes.
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blacksmithn
 
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Reply Fri 17 Mar, 2006 12:07 pm
Folks have been searching for a reason that bigotry and intolerance exist since the Dawn of Time. Might as well ask why the wind blows. Personally, I suspect it's innate in the species. Sad, isn't it?
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