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Clinton ~ 'Islam - fastest growing religion in America'

 
 
Raul-7
 
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Reply Sat 18 Mar, 2006 03:08 pm
And praying to a temple full of rats is any more advanced?
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freedom4free
 
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Reply Sat 18 Mar, 2006 03:19 pm
So, we have to take your word ?

don't you have any reference sources ?

Anyway does that give you Hindus the right to kill them ?

Are you people savages ?

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Gujarat's Gendered Violence

"I have never known a riot which has used the sexual subjugation of women so widely as an instrument of violence. There are reports everywhere of [the] gang-rape of young girls and women, often in the presence of members of their families, followed by their murder by burning alive."
-Harsh Mander, "Cry, the Beloved Country: Reflections on the Gujarat Massacre."


Women's bodies were central battlegrounds in the worst bout of Hindu-Muslim bloodletting to grip India in over ten years, in the western Indian state of Gujarat beginning on February 27. After an enraged Muslim mob allegedly set a train packed with Hindus on fire in Godhra, killing fifty-eight, a wave of retaliatory violence was unleashed on the minority Muslim population in the region, leaving up to 2,000 dead and 100,000 homeless. Under the indulgent gaze of the state government, and against a backdrop of ransacked houses and desecrated temples, at least 250 women and girls were brutally gang-raped and burned alive.

Shabnam Hashmi, founder of SAHMAT (a coalition of artists and intellectuals who work to strengthen secularism within Indian society), believes that although the pogrom was triggered by Godhra, the attacks were premeditated: "These mobs were trained in rape. Why else would the same pattern of brutality be repeated everywhere? Groups of women were stripped naked and then made to run for miles, before being gang-raped and burned alive. In some cases religious symbols were carved onto their bodies." In the documentary Evil Stalks the Land, produced by Hashmi's husband, Gauhar Raza, a young boy stares, unblinking, into the camera. "About 100 to 150 children my age were burned in a house," he recalls. "The tea stall in which we were hiding was set on fire using gas cylinders. My grandmother's limbs were chopped off and my aunt was brutally raped."

Among all the horrifying testimonies of sexual violence to emerge from Gujarat, one story has come to symbolize the collective suffering of the Muslim community. It is told and retold on news stories, in NGO reports, in eyewitness accounts: "I was running [and] I saw a pregnant woman's belly being cut open," states a young boy on Indian television. "The fetus was pulled out and thrown up in the air. As it came down it was collected on the tip of the sword." "[Kausar Bano] was nine months'pregnant," recalls Saira Banu at the Shah Alam camp for refugees. "They cut open her belly, took her fetus with a sword and threw it into a blazing fire. Then they burned her as well." "We were to hear this story many times," wrote the Citizen's Initiative fact-finding team of women, who saw photographic evidence of the burned body of a mother with a charred fetus lying on her stomach. Their April 16 report, The Survivors Speak, reflects upon the significance of this crime: "Kausar's story has come to embody the numerous experiences of evil that were felt by the Muslims.Sˇ In all instances where extreme violence is experienced collectively, meta-narratives are constructed. Each victim is part of the narrative; their experience subsumed by the collective experience. Kausar is that collective experience-a meta-narrative of bestiality; a meta-narrative of helpless victimhood." The image of Kausar and her unborn child has assumed a dual meaning, for both Hindu aggressors and Muslim victims: The humiliation of the enemy through violation of the female body, and the assault on the future of the Muslim community through the destruction of the next generation.

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20020930/baldwin20020916


Also read :

Quote:
Human Rights Watch

India: Gujarat Massacre Cases Sabotaged

http://www.hrw.org/press/2003/06/india070103.htm
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brahmin
 
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Reply Sat 18 Mar, 2006 03:28 pm
Raul-7 wrote:
And praying to a temple full of rats is any more advanced?


no, but we do a lot more than just that (besides the fact that we DID a lot more than what we are given credit for - most of europen books of math and astronomy till the 16th century were taken from Persian translations of Sanskrit texts, which the arabs passed on to the west, like a disease) and will depelop faster than Chain's rate too soon enough.


besides, how does it get islam off the hook????
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brahmin
 
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Reply Sat 18 Mar, 2006 03:30 pm
freedom4free wrote:
So, we have to take your word ?

don't you have any reference sources ?

Anyway does that give you Hindus the right to kill them ?

Are you people savages ?

Quote:

Gujarat's Gendered Violence

"I have never known a riot which has used the sexual subjugation of women so widely as an instrument of violence. There are reports everywhere of [the] gang-rape of young girls and women, often in the presence of members of their families, followed by their murder by burning alive."
-Harsh Mander, "Cry, the Beloved Country: Reflections on the Gujarat Massacre."


Women's bodies were central battlegrounds in the worst bout of Hindu-Muslim bloodletting to grip India in over ten years, in the western Indian state of Gujarat beginning on February 27. After an enraged Muslim mob allegedly set a train packed with Hindus on fire in Godhra, killing fifty-eight, a wave of retaliatory violence was unleashed on the minority Muslim population in the region, leaving up to 2,000 dead and 100,000 homeless. Under the indulgent gaze of the state government, and against a backdrop of ransacked houses and desecrated temples, at least 250 women and girls were brutally gang-raped and burned alive.

Shabnam Hashmi, founder of SAHMAT (a coalition of artists and intellectuals who work to strengthen secularism within Indian society), believes that although the pogrom was triggered by Godhra, the attacks were premeditated: "These mobs were trained in rape. Why else would the same pattern of brutality be repeated everywhere? Groups of women were stripped naked and then made to run for miles, before being gang-raped and burned alive. In some cases religious symbols were carved onto their bodies." In the documentary Evil Stalks the Land, produced by Hashmi's husband, Gauhar Raza, a young boy stares, unblinking, into the camera. "About 100 to 150 children my age were burned in a house," he recalls. "The tea stall in which we were hiding was set on fire using gas cylinders. My grandmother's limbs were chopped off and my aunt was brutally raped."

Among all the horrifying testimonies of sexual violence to emerge from Gujarat, one story has come to symbolize the collective suffering of the Muslim community. It is told and retold on news stories, in NGO reports, in eyewitness accounts: "I was running [and] I saw a pregnant woman's belly being cut open," states a young boy on Indian television. "The fetus was pulled out and thrown up in the air. As it came down it was collected on the tip of the sword." "[Kausar Bano] was nine months'pregnant," recalls Saira Banu at the Shah Alam camp for refugees. "They cut open her belly, took her fetus with a sword and threw it into a blazing fire. Then they burned her as well." "We were to hear this story many times," wrote the Citizen's Initiative fact-finding team of women, who saw photographic evidence of the burned body of a mother with a charred fetus lying on her stomach. Their April 16 report, The Survivors Speak, reflects upon the significance of this crime: "Kausar's story has come to embody the numerous experiences of evil that were felt by the Muslims.Sˇ In all instances where extreme violence is experienced collectively, meta-narratives are constructed. Each victim is part of the narrative; their experience subsumed by the collective experience. Kausar is that collective experience-a meta-narrative of bestiality; a meta-narrative of helpless victimhood." The image of Kausar and her unborn child has assumed a dual meaning, for both Hindu aggressors and Muslim victims: The humiliation of the enemy through violation of the female body, and the assault on the future of the Muslim community through the destruction of the next generation.

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20020930/baldwin20020916


Also read :

Quote:
Human Rights Watch

India: Gujarat Massacre Cases Sabotaged

http://www.hrw.org/press/2003/06/india070103.htm


yes i know about the gujrat massacre. and am right glad that it happened. would keep the muslims from growing wings.

ask the muslims not to burn hindu pilgrims in trains next time.

i have posted about that issue "n" number of times in A2K - cant repeat again. One incident dont prove jack ****. its becomming like that crocodile and fox story - everytime the crodile showed the same "fox-baby".



as for reference sources, do one thing.


google the following -

indian institute of science.
indian institute of technology.
indian space research organisation.
tata institute of fundamental research.


and check out the absence of muslim names in every one of these.
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brahmin
 
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Reply Sat 18 Mar, 2006 05:59 pm
freedom4free wrote:

Are you people savages ?


pot.
chalk.
black.
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dalahow2
 
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Reply Tue 21 Mar, 2006 07:31 am
critics
This will do

Criticize ISLAM
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