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Sun 5 Feb, 2006 07:45 am
So, now that there have been several days of violence caused by Muslims over a cartoon, what do you think of Muslims now?
I do agree that it's just a few extremists giving the rest of the Muslims a bad name, but those extremists seem to be getting more and more support from moderate Muslims every day.
I read a post from a Pakistani man on another message board, this is a person that I've always thought was a rational thinker and didn't seem very extreme. And he was all up in arms over this cartoon. Even going so far as to justify the use of guns to protest this.
I also think that the United States policy in the middle east is only benefiting the Muslims extremists because it's giving them a common enemy to unite against. Now they are branching out against little countries like Denmark.
I wonder if that cartoon had been published in an American paper if it would have had the same backlash? I think the people that organize this protest know that they outnumber little Denmark and may be able to intimidate them and other small countries.
As for the nuclear issue in Iran. There's no way this is just for generating energy. They don't need it. Plus, the president of Iran has publicly said that he would erase Israel from the map.
"moderates"... you mean those that are like radicals but without the balls to actually act on it so they support the radicals. like "mainstream" republicans support bushco.
A commentator on the radio suggested that one difficulty could be the absence of a free press in most of the Muslim world. A consequence of that is that anything published in a magazine or newspaper is seen as the official position of the government.
If this is the major factor it would make the reaction a little more understandable to me, though no more palatable.
But of course even in the west these days the fact that someone is offended by an opinion is increasingly seen as sufficient reason to ban it's expression.
Had I seen those cartoons before publication, and they really were pretty offensive, I could have predicted the Muslim reaction. Maybe just a few extremists, but as BP notes, supported by those that like to be safely considered moderates.
Now, if I had seen similar cartoons depicting John Wesley, I would have felt equally confident in predicting some quite steamy letters to the editor, not to mention a number of canceled subscriptions.
The pictures are not in good taste, but in their own right cannot cause so much anger. A hardcore group will use any trigger for their violent means. If not the cartoons, something else. Not all Muslims are like this.
I think some Muslims suck, just like some of any other grouping you might mention.
Though I can understand their being offended, I cannot understand how some Muslims have let this get so out of hand. If everyone that was offended in this world would resort to this kind of violence, I dare say there wouldn't be too many people left on this earth at all.
so anyway 1,000 people die on a sinking ship from egypt, the government controlled press headlines some danish cartoons and the anger is diverted, Syria is a powder keg waiting to explode with 85% of the population disenfranchised from access to power or control, the government controlled press headlines some danish cartoons and the anger is diverted, The Lebonese government is on the brink of disaster and the government controlled press headlines some danish cartoons. Get my drift?????
Religious fanatics, backed by the ignorant herd ... sound familiar???
Anon
i think this poll isn't completely fair coz no one will accept violence there must be one more choice which is ( do u thinkmuslims has the right to be angry) just try to put the first choice in the poll in good terms ..thanks
Good point bluebaby, but the poll can't be modified at this point. And, there will always be people who disagree with the wording of a poll. I'll admit, there is some bias in the wording because it was written by a person with disgust over the behavior. If I could modify the poll I would add "Anger is justified, but violence is not."
Am I really the only one who gets annoyed when someone starts, like, the seventh thread on the same topic?
The thing is that people start posting the same information all over again, and the discussion starts from scratch ...
Ah well, I'm just super-anal I guess.
Nimh, I think you should get over it. Go grab a gun and protest with the Muslims... I couldn't find any other polls on the subject before I posted.
Am I really the only one who gets annoyed when someone, like, changes the subject of a thread after like the 7th post? :wink:
Am I really the only one who gets annoyed when someone, like, complains too much?
Am I really the only one who gets annoyed when someone, like, has a smilie for every possible occasion.
Am I really the only one who gets annoyed when someone, like, uses the word "Like" too much.
Fish suck!
Yeah, like, you're so totally, you know, the only one - I mean, no waay, like, that youse not - word!
Well, I'm all for freedom of the press, but after reading how this whole thing started, I don't feel too good about anyone in this fight. A newspaper editor invited cartoonists to portray Muhammad however they wanted. I'm assuming he knew that there's a taboo in Islam re depicted Muhammad at all, positively or negatively.
The angry response was predictable--and I wonder if it was intended from the get-go...
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