christians follow PAUL and muslims follow JESUS

ALI--

1. YOU CANNOT DEFEND ISLAM BY CONDEMNING CHRISTIANITY AND JUDAISM.

2. WHEN YOU REFUSE TO ANSWER A DIRECT QUESTION YOU APPEAR IGNORANT.

3. AND GET TO THE POINT! IT SHOULD NOT TAKE A MILLION WORDS TO EXPLAIN SOMETHING. FOR CHRIST'S SAKE!!

DID YOU EVER BOTHER TO THINK THAT MAYBE WE ARE NOT ALL CHRISTIANS HERE? YOUR ARGUMENTS AGAINST CHRISTIANITY ARE WASTED. TRY SOMETHING ELSE. (REASONING, PERHAPS? GIVE IT A SHOT. YOU MIGHT LIKE IT.)

IF YOU CANT JUSTIFY THESE THINGS THAT ARE IN YOUR BIBLE THEN PERHAPS... YOU SHOULD SHUT YOUR MOUTH

ali87,

Sweetie, you are not listening. You are talking to some people that are not Christians. So, you probably aren't going to get them to pay much attention to what you are posting.

And I am not going to get into this with you. And, if you don't stop it, pretty soon they are going to think I had something to do with you doing this.

Momma--

Thanks for trying, but for some reason I doubt it will help.

echi,

I know, but I had to try.

I DID REASON BY PROVIDING SCIENTIFIC CLAIMS THAT THE QURAN MADE, THAT BECAME TRUE TODAY, PERHAPS YOU SHOULD READ MY OTHER POSTS REGARDING THIS. ITS CALLED "IF THE QURAN IS WRONG THEN PROVE IT ALL"

WELL GO AND JUDGE FOR URSELF

Fine. Let's play nice, then. Do you think you could give me better directions to the posts you mention? At least a page number, maybe? It's kind of a lot to sift through, yeah?

THANK YOU, YOU RATHER PROVED MY POINT!

ALI--

1. YOU CANNOT DEFEND ISLAM BY CONDEMNING CHRISTIANITY AND JUDAISM.

I ALREADY DISPROVED UR POINT IN MY OTHER THREADS. BUT THANKS TO YOU TOO FOR PROVING MY POINTS ABOUT PEDOPHILIA IN THE BIBLE.

HERE IT IS


http://www.able2know.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=68358

Check out the Mormons!!!
They fast, they have a modern day Prophet to help clear up these puzzling questions and guide us in these difficult times.... they have dietary laws that were way ahead of their time....(prophetic even) they practice chastity, modesty, and the other virtues. They take care of their own and help people all over the world. The things they teach avoid a lot of misery and help people to rise out of poverty, strengthen families, etc.... Find some of these handsome young men in the white shirts with the name tags (or women) with the light of Christ (the Spirit of God, maybe?) shining from their faces and get a Book of Mormon! Read it with an open mind, pray about it and find out for yourself!!!! I did 29 years ago myself.........

Every thread i go to i see the same old arguments



"Cant we all just get along???" - Jack Nicholson, Mars Attacks

People should do some research on Islam instead of just blabbering on about the same old arguments that have been refuted before.

Mohammed (pbuh) was the best example for mankind and is revered by true HISTORIANS WHO WERE NOT MUSLIM.


If greatness of purpose, smallness of means, and astounding results are the three criteria of human genius, who could dare to compare any great man in modern history with Muhammad? The most famous men created arms, laws and empires only They founded, if anything at all, no more than material powers which often crumbled away before their eyes This man moved not only armies, legislation, empires, peoples and dynasties, but millions of men in one-third of the then-inhabited world; and more than that he moved the altars, the gods, the religions, the ideas, the beliefs and souls.... His forbearance in victory, his ambition which was entirely devoted to one idea and in no manner striving for an empire, his endless prayers, his mystic conversations with God, his death and his triumph after death all these attest not to an imposture but to a firm conviction which gave him the power to restore a dogma. This dogma was
twofold: the unity of God and the immateriality of God; the former telling what God is, the latter telling what God is not; the one overthrowing false gods with the sword, the other starting an idea with the words. Philosopher, orator, apostle, legislator, warrior, conqueror of ideas, restorer of rational dogmas, of a cult without images; the founder of twenty terrestrial empires and of one spiritual empire, that is Muhammad. As regards all standards by which human greatness may be measured, we may well ask, is there any man greater than he?
- Lamartine
Histoire de la Turquie, Pans 1854, Vol. 11, pp. 276-77.


It is not the propagation but the permanency of his religion that deserves our wonder; the same pure and perfect impression which he engraved at Mecca and Medina is preserved, after the revolutions of twelve centuries by the Indian, the African and the Turkish proselytes of the Koran...
The Mahometans have uniformly withstood the temptation of reducing the object of their faith and devotion to a level with the senses and imagination of man. I believe in One God and Mohammed is the Apostle of God' is the simple and invariable profession of Islam. The intellectual image of the Deity has never been degraded by any visible idol; the honors of the prophet have never transgressed the measure of human virtue; and his living precepts have restrained the gratitude of his disciples within the bounds of reason and religion.
- Edward Gibbon and Simon Ocklay
History of the Saracen Empire, London 1870, p 54.


He was Caesar and Pope in one; but he was Pope without Pope's pretensions, Caesar without the legions of Caesar: without a standing army, without a bodyguard, without a palace, without a fixed revenue. If ever any man had the right to say that he ruled by the right divine, it was Mohammed, for he had all the power without its instruments and without its supports.
- Bosworth Smith
Mohammed and Mohammedanism, London 1874, p 92.


It is impossible for anyone who studies the life and character of the great Prophet of Arabia, who knows how he taught and how he lived, to feel anything but reverence for that mighty Prophet, one of the great messengers of the Supreme. And although in what I put to you I shall say many things which may be familiar to many, yet I myself feel whenever I re-read them, a new way of admiration, a new sense of reverence for
that mighty Arabian teacher.
- Annie Besant
The Life and Teachings of Muhammad, Madras 1932, p 4


His readiness to undergo persecution for his beliefs, the high moral character of the men who believed in him and looked up to him as leader, and the greatness of his ultimate achievement all argue his fundamental integrity To suppose Muhammad an impostor raises more problems than it solves. Moreover, none of the great figures of history is so poorly
appreciated in the West as Muhammad.
- W Montgomery Watt
Mohammed At Mecca, Oxford, 1953, p 52.


Muhammad, the inspired man who founded Islam, was born about AD. 570 into an Arabian tube that worshipped idols. Orphaned at birth, he was always particularly solicitous of the poor and needy the widow and the orphan, the slave and the downtrodden. At twenty he was already a successful businessman, and soon became director of camel caravans for a wealthy widow. When he reached twenty-five his employer, recognizing his meet, proposed marriage. Even though she was fifteen years older, he married her, and as long as she lived remained a devoted husband. Like almost every major prophet before him, Muhammad fought shy of serving as the transmitter of God's word, sensing his own inadequacy But the angel commanded Read'. So far as we know, Muhammad was
unable to read or write, but he began to dictate those inspired words which would soon revolutionize a large segment of the earth: "There is one God." In all things Muhammad was profoundly practical. When his beloved son Ibrahim died, an eclipse occurred, and rumors of God's personal condolence quickly arose. Whereupon Muhammad is said to have announced,' An eclipse is a phenomenon of nature. It is foolish to attribute such things to the death or birth of a human being."
At Muhammads own death an attempt was made to deify him, but the man who was to become his administrative successor killed the hysteria with one of the noblest speeches in religious history: 'If there are any among you who worshipped Muhammad, he is dead. But if it is God you
worshipped, He lives for ever'.
James A. Michene~
"Islam: The Misunderstood Religion,"
Reader's Digest (Amencan ea.) May 1955, pp. 68-70.

My choice of Muhammad to lead the list of the world's most influential persons may surprise some readers and may be questioned by others, but he was the only man in history who was supremely successful on both the religious and secular level.
Michael H. Hart
The 100: A Ranking of the Most Influential Persons in History,
New York: Hart Publishing Company Inc. 1978, p 33.

Look at the bigger picture please