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Japanese mythology

 
 
Lucien
 
Reply Mon 30 Jan, 2006 01:53 pm
Ok, I have a question about a Japanese myth I heard about recently, concerning three legendary swords: The Sword of Heaven, the Sword of Hell, and the Sword of Earth. This myth has been alluded to in many popular video games and anime shows. For example, in the third Inuyasha movie, the same three sword theme is an integral part of the movie's plot (Tetsaiga, Tensaiga, and Sounga). And in Final Fantasy 7, the sword that Sephiroth wields (Masamune) has been referred to as the Sword of Heaven. Can somebody explain this myth to me? It must be important, if it has been used in so many aspects of popular culture. Also, explain why the villains always wield the Sword of Heaven (Sephiroth with Masamune, and Sesshomaru with Tensaiga). Is there some significance to this? Some help would be greatly appreciated, as I'm using this as the topic for a paper in my Mythology class, and it's due next week. Thanx! Very Happy
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Setanta
 
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Reply Mon 30 Jan, 2006 02:48 pm
You're dealing with video games and motion pictures, fer chrissake . . . get some perspective.

Masamune is the name of one of the most famous of Japanese swordsmiths--which is to say, he was a real person, and a Masamune simply means a sword which was made by him (mid 14th century).

In [i]The Historical Masamune[/i], Jason Dingledine wrote:
The historical Masamune's familiar name is Goro Nyudo. Masamune is probably the best known Japanese swordsmith of all time, as well as a well-known philosopher.

Masamune is believed to have worked in Sagami Province during the last part of the Kamakura Era (1288 - 1328), and it is thought that he was trained by swordsmiths from Bizen and Yamashiro provinces, such as Kunitsuna and Kunimitsu.

The first famous swordsmith active in Kamakura, Sagami province was Shintogo Kunimitsu. It is claimed (in Kanchiinbon Meizukushi) that he was a grandson of a swordsmith of the Taima school in Yamato province. It is generally accepted that Kunimitsu had two pupils, Yukimitsu and Masamune. The earliest among Kunimitsu's works are those reliably dated to1293 and the latest dated 1324. Judging from the dates of Kunimitsu's works, Masamune was active from the end of Kamakura to the very early years of the Nanbokucho period.

Masamune is credited with creating the Soshu tradition of swordmaking during his career. Masamune's adopted son, Sadamune succeeded him as master of the Soshu tradition.


Reality is always far more interesting than the paltry creations of some cinematic hack's imagination. I suggest that you do online searches for the words and names you have accumulated from these game and movie sources, and avoid sites which refer to the games of the movies. You might then learn a great deal about katanas and how they were made and who made them.

Reality always is more interesting and compelling than fiction, but it requires some work to get to it, because nobody is peddling it to you the way games and novels and movies are peddled . . .
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Lucien
 
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Reply Sun 12 Feb, 2006 06:14 pm
Well, the reason I'm asking about this myth is because a while ago one of my friends (who is a big Final Fantasy/Inuyasha fan) was explaining to me that the whole three sword theme was based on an actual Japanese legend that originated in Feudal times, and was somehow linked to Shinto and/or Bushido. Yes, I know about Masamune the swordsmith (when I Googled Masamune, I got like 50 results about him, and I read a lot of them). Basically, I'm looking for someone who can explain the actual legend that the TV shows and video games are based on. Masamune was a real person, not a legend. Thanks for your input though.
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Lucien
 
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Reply Wed 1 Mar, 2006 08:07 pm
johnny344 wrote:
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That type of post belongs in the Forum Help thread.
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