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Can you really prove your existence?

 
 
sometime sun
 
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Reply Wed 16 Jun, 2010 08:53 am
I am of the mind and matter that existence really has to prove its self to me.
Before or after existence is proved am I proven me?
Arjuna
 
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Reply Wed 16 Jun, 2010 12:20 pm
@sometime sun,
sometime sun wrote:

I am of the mind and matter that existence really has to prove its self to me.
Before or after existence is proved am I proven me?
Hi sometime:

Being was never known until we knew not being, which we can never know

You can't be proven. The other made you. You made the other.
The two can never be the same.
Reason knows: they must be one.
Huxley
 
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Reply Wed 16 Jun, 2010 12:44 pm
Existence is given through intuition.
I am an object in your intuition.
Therefore, I exist.

The only possible retort is to not say a thing.
To not say a thing is to not refute my argument.
Therefore, the above argument is irrefutable.

Very Happy
sometime sun
 
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Reply Wed 16 Jun, 2010 01:04 pm
@Arjuna,

sometime sun wrote:

I am of the mind and matter that existence really has to prove its self to me.
Before or after existence is proved am I proven me?
Hi sometime:
Arjuna wrote:

Being was never known until we knew not being, which we can never know

Something is only known because it is missing?
Something is only missing because it is known?

Being is only found by what is known not? Or is known?
'Is known not' only found by its being? Or is not found?
('Is not known' as much as 'Is known not')

Something is only not known because it is present?
Something is only present because it is not known?

Then; Is the known only found because it is not being?
Then; Is not being only found because it is the known?

Does being not know us then, or does it know only our being and not able to know its own, and us not knowing is the only way being can know?
Or not know?
What is being that is ours?
What is being that is not ours?
What is ours that is being?
What is ours that is not being?
What is not being that is ours?
What is not being that is not ours?
What is not ours that is being?
What is not ours that is not being?

Knowing 'can' then be the bliss as ignorance 'can' then be the horror?
or 'cannot'?
Arjuna wrote:

You can't be proven. The other made you. You made the other.
The two can never be the same.
Reason knows: they must be one.

I know I know not.
I know not I know.

Thank you Arjuna, as always it is a Delirium.
Arjuna
 
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Reply Wed 16 Jun, 2010 02:30 pm
@sometime sun,
sometime sun wrote:


Something is only known because it is missing?
Something is only missing because it is known?

Thank you Arjuna, as always it is a Delirium.
The absence of the pizza is only known because of the presence of the hunger. The Pizza will kill the Hunger.

I thought it was a Dream.
Arjuna
 
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Reply Wed 16 Jun, 2010 02:31 pm
@Huxley,
Huxley wrote:

Existence is given through intuition.
I am an object in your intuition.
Therefore, I exist.

The only possible retort is to not say a thing.
To not say a thing is to not refute my argument.
Therefore, the above argument is irrefutable.

Very Happy
I didn't say a thing. Ooops.
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sometime sun
 
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Reply Wed 16 Jun, 2010 02:49 pm
@Arjuna,
I hope you saw I was agreeing with you even if I found myself question it.

We only know that there is something needed to be answered because we find we needed to ask.

I should think Delight really, but Delight died didn't she?
Or was that went though puberty?
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sportykess
 
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Reply Tue 8 Feb, 2011 01:51 am
@Arella Mae,
You could be thinking that you see yourself in the mirror though, meaning that you don't actually.
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xrisxs
 
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Reply Tue 8 Feb, 2011 10:24 am
If I put ten people to your left and ten to your right and ask you to hold hands . then i ask you too make a circle. A day goes by and I ask a stranger to enter the circle. I ask hime to find me the truth of this circle if any at all. The stranger asks the first person he comes too, "how many steps did you take to make this circle?" the person says I took 4 steps. next dudes says 3 and so on. but sooner or later someONE in this circle is going to say I took not one step. if you crossed out all duplicates your left ONE. I do not know if my reply has any bearing on your question. Note also I bet in a million attempts of making this circle i bet everytime all walked forward to make this circle. To prove ones existence he only needs to look at his shadow. I mean it is yours right? that shadow shades all that was there. you block the light from around you at any given time because you are what it and nothing wants to see. Yes, i think I can prove I exist. the simple fat that the one did nothing to be says alot. Without you no step would have ever been taken from anyone.
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JLNobody
 
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Reply Thu 10 Feb, 2011 03:55 pm
My existence is the one thing I do not need to prove. What I need to do is understand the true nature of that which I sense immediately to exist--and perhaps the nature of that "existence."
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