Quote:I am still waiting for the references in the Bible to back up your assertions, aktorist.
And, what if some people are? There are racists. There are sexists. There are whatever! All we can do is look to ourselves and control and change our own behavior.
Do you really think calling other people homophobes is going to get them to change their way of thinking? Isn't calling them names the same exact thing you are accusing them of? (Discriminating because of something).
The answer is not in labeling. The answer is in discussing and coming to an understanding. It's a lot easier to do that when both sides are entering into the discussion as equals.
I need no references. You yourself has told me that the bible says that "homosexuality (or homosexual acts) is an abomination."
Discrimination against people who have done nothing is either right or wrong. And homosexual people have done nothing more than heterosexual people.
Take your pick. Is it right, or is it wrong?
Quote:And, what if some people are? There are racists. There are sexists. There are whatever! All we can do is look to ourselves and control and change our own behavior.
Racism and sexism are also wrong. Homophobia is wrong.
Quote:And that is absolutely no different than anyone else voting for what they believe is right or wrong.
Your belief that it is wrong is wrong, just like belief in racism and sexism.
Quote:I suppose I would also be discriminating against those that would benefit from a certain tax law when it might hurt others when I vote against it? I suppose I am being discriminatory when I want laws that protect our neighborhood from sexual offenders that are tougher on them about registering? I suppose I am being discriminatory when I don't want certain people in my house because of the fact I don't like them?
The first is equality for those who have done nothing. The second is basic morality that sex offenders have done something wrong.
Quote:Yes, sozobe, if I could vote on this issue I would vote no. And that is absolutely no different than anyone else voting for what they believe is right or wrong. Absolutely no difference. I would think it's safe to say that on any law voted on, someone is going to be discriminated against, wouldn't you?
In all cases, discrimination is wrong. It is different from murderers because they have done something wrong. But discrimination is different.
Discrimination is wrong. What you believe in is wrong. Religion/tradition is not an excuse for bigotry.