How much of what you believe came from someone else?

EorI wrote: "Believe none of what you hear and half of what you see"

I really don't remember where I heard that, but it has stayed with me for many decades. When we consider how witnesses to the same accident or crime can see it differently is a good example of how we perceive things differently. Eye witnesses have often mistaken the innocent to land them in prison. If anybody believes everything they hear, I have a bridge for sale in a prime location.

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bm

(Interesting, hephzibah!)

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msolga wrote:

bm

(Interesting, hephzibah!)

bm?

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book mark. Wink

not bowel movement. LOL

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hephzibah wrote:

msolga wrote:
bm

(Interesting, hephzibah!)

bm?

bm = boomark.

So I'll receive the updates from this thread.

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gotcha, thanks. Smile

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Hahaha!!!

bowel movement.

I wondered myself what this meant.

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I'm the other one wrote:

Hahaha!!!

bowel movement.

I wondered myself what this meant.

LOL yeah... I thought the same thing at first! I thought maybe msolga was saying horse poopie in a nice way or something Razz

bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaa hahaha!

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Think of how you came into this world and ask youself the question this way:

If you came into this world not knowing or believing anything......

How much of what we believe and learned came from somewhere or someone else?

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Bartikus wrote:

Think of how you came into this world and ask youself the question this way:

If you came into this world not knowing or believing anything......

How much of what we believe and learned came from somewhere or someone else?

Ah ha! Good point Bartikus! But that's not quite what I had in mind when I started this thread.

Or maybe this has just been developing along the way...

Either way, I mean more along the lines of spirituality I guess.

Everyone here has their own belief about the subject of spirituality and religion.

They are here in this forum to share their oppinion about it.

I wonder a lot how it is that people have come to the conclusions they have?

Who or what has influenced them to believe it?

Have they ever believed something just because someone said it?

If they did, would they be willing to admit it?

You know, that kind of stuff... that was an awesome point though!

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Bartikus wrote
Think of how you came into this world and ask yourself the question this way:
If you came into this world not knowing or believing anything......
How much of what we believe and learned came from somewhere or someone else?
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I think the answer might be... as you came into the world knowing nothing, you would have to be "taught" to "believe" but as one matures, one sometimes learns, that "beliefs" are taught, so as to enmesh the mind of the "believer" into "believing the "unbelievable".... well that's what I have learned and now I believe it..... well, I "think" I do.

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hephzibah wrote:

Bartikus wrote:
Think of how you came into this world and ask youself the question this way:

If you came into this world not knowing or believing anything......

How much of what we believe and learned came from somewhere or someone else?

Ah ha! Good point Bartikus! But that's not quite what I had in mind when I started this thread.

Or maybe this has just been developing along the way...

Either way, I mean more along the lines of spirituality I guess.

Everyone here has their own belief about the subject of spirituality and religion.

They are here in this forum to share their oppinion about it.

I wonder a lot how it is that people have come to the conclusions they have?

Who or what has influenced them to believe it?

Have they ever believed something just because someone said it?

If they did, would they be willing to admit it?

You know, that kind of stuff... that was an awesome point though!

I know that's not what you had in mind....but it remains true of everything you have learned. Every imaginable subject we have learned about and believe in came from an external source or influence.

Some are considered 'fools' while others are considered 'intelligent'.

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Bartikus,

I disagree.

Many things (if not MOST things) we learn for ourselves through interaction with the world (not to be confused with information from an outside source.

People teach us things but often we don't really learn them until we try them oursleves.

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Eorl wrote:

Bartikus,

I disagree.

Many things (if not MOST things) we learn for ourselves through interaction with the world (not to be confused with information from an outside source.

People teach us things but often we don't really learn them until we try them oursleves.

We do learn FOR OURSELVES through interactions in the WORLD. The world ......is external though you make up a part of this world...it is very small. And, yes we do learn things from that which we experience.

All experience is unique and yets holds similarities with others.

Why is one person's experience foolishness and another's experience fact? It's not hard to see why that is. If I have experienced something that not many have it is 'far fetched' and ridiculed.

If I share an experience that is nearly common to all....it is accepted as being true.

What if truth is not a common discovery as we all hope it is?

We do learn FOR oursleves but not without external factors. A book, a speech, a song, nature, other people etc......

What would a child ever learn in a vacuum? They would not even learn or experience lonliness.

If a person says they experienced the presence and healing powers of God....those who have not or don't have faith in such things will say.....bull...it is all in your head. Why? Because very few have experienced it and the big reason is. "Because I have not experienced it...it must be bull". That is such a far out idea.....and yes it is far out.... and away from many.

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When Jesus prayed ENDLESSLY all night long in Luke 6:12, did he not repeat his prayers? His main focus was on GOD Almighty saving him from the crucifixion. Jesus' prayers all night long, which obviously were far more than just 3 times, were repetition after repetition after repetition, compromising his very own commands about not doing "vain repetitions."

Where does it say Jesus prayed all night long the same prayers? If it does'nt say this....how do you know the prayers were made in vain reptition?

Here is a link that addresses all your points. I won't cut and paste.

http://www.answer-islam.org/

Porn you say....why leave out the next verse?

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sozobe wrote:

I had a great time in college, but the guidance on how to think critically and the instruction on why it is important to think critically are probably the biggest benefits I got from it. There are very few things I accept without question, from any source.

I rather doubt that.

Ya happy? Laughing

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sozobe, Meet phony aka real. Phony, Meet sozobe.

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I posted this elsewhere and should be horsewhipped for spamming; but I think it may be appropriate here.

neologist wrote:

I am saddened to bear this report.

A recent study by the Institute of Psychomoronics has uncovered this distressing fact:

Of 362 patients whose brains had fallen out during periods of vacuity, fully 100% continued their obtuse activity completely unaware of the loss.

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neo, When did they let you out?

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