What produces RUTHLESS DICTATORS?

It's funny how you can refer to it as "sophistry" when you don't know the context of it. Perhaps if you bothered to follow ican's argument, you would see the context of the statement in light of what ican has been saying. I am merely using HIS argument against him.

One more time.

The Constitution of the USA as amended states what the federal government has the power to do, what the federal government does not have the power to do, and what the federal government must do. The 10th Amendment makes it clear that the federal government has no other powers than the powers the Constitution says it has.

The federal government has the power to regulate how interstate commerce may occur. The federal government does not have the power to dictate what interstate commerce shall actually occur.

In particular the federal government has the power to regulate how electric power can be distributred (e.g., safety rules). The federal government does not have the power to regulate when or whether or not that distribution shall occur.

"Safety rules." ROFL

I got that ican..

SO.. Since the government can't regulate electricity that crosses state lines, what gives government the power to regulate radio and TV signals since they are nothing more than electromagnetic waves?

The federal government has been granted the power to regulate interstate commerce. Radio, TV, and radar signals use electromagnetic waves for the purpose of engaging in the interstate commerce of communication. Government regulates the use of these and other electromagnetic wave transmissions to minimize mutual interference among such transmissions. One of the ways they do this is by licensing the use of individual parts of the electromagnetic frequency spectrum to different communicators--(for example, USA broadcast stations on the ground, and on cars, boats, trains, aircraft, rockets and satellites.)

So.. the US government can license WHO can produce radio signals but can't license WHO can produce electricity?

What happened to your "safety" clause? Just disappeared, heh? LOL

Yes, the US government can license WHO can produce and how they can produce radio signals, but can't license WHO can produce electricity. However, the US government can license how electricity can be distributed across state lines. FOR EXAMPLE (E.G.,), the US government can specify how electricity can be safely distributed across state lines: THE HEIGHT OF ITS DISTRIBUTIONS ABOVE AND BELOW THE GROUND, LAKES, AND RIVERS; THE TYPES OF INSULATION THAT MUST BE USED IN ITS DISTRIBUTIONS; THE MAGNITUDE OF ITS VOLTAGES IN ITS DISTRIBUTIONS.

Okay, ican, show us where the US controls interstate commerce on electricity based on 'SAFETY?'

FEDERAL GOVERNMENT RULES FOR INTERSTATE ELECTRIC POWER DISTRIBUTION

http://www.altavista.com/web/results?itag=ody&q=interstate+power+distribution+rules&kgs=0&kls=0

http://www.ferc.gov/EventCalendar/Files/20090507143027-May%207%20Distributed%20Generation.pdf

ican, Where is the regulations that covers "safety" by the federal government?

RELIABILITY = ADEQUACY & SECURITY
security = safe limits @ ccoordinated

The government is given the power to regulate commerce. So if they can regulate one product under that clause then they can regulate ALL unless the constitution specifically restricts them to only certain commodities.

Why can the government regulate WHO can produce radio signals but NOT regulate WHO can produce electricity?

I guess you missed this part from your source ican


The government regulates the SALE of electrical energy.

A poster wrote:


This is rather transparent sophistry. We are certainly able to buy or not buy electrical power as you assert. One might just as well note that we are equally able to use or not to use health care services.

The fact is that the government is requiring power producers to generate a stipulated fraction of their power from politically favored (= wind & solar) sources, even though with existing (heavy) subsidies they cost about twice as much as existing alternative sources (some like nuclear and hydro that generate no emissions): to compound the insult government also requires the producer to charge his customers only the AVERAGE price of the power produced -- all to hide the real cost of the politically favored sources from the consumers.

Between the deficits that will result from adding to the health care entitlements that are already the fastest growing elements in our budget, and the crippling economic effects of the administrations proposed energy policy, this administration is likely to suppress economic growth for decades.

It should surprise no one that there is a rapidly growing groundswell of public outrage over these issues. The drinkers of the kool-aid can of course comfort themselves with the illusion that it is all an evil conspiracy funded by corporations.

Well hello Possum...

ican wrote: , so what exactly do they mean by "safe limits?" How do they determine what is safe and unsafe in the transmission of electricity? Who does this checking?

Does the government have inspectors to check whether the energy companies are "operating them within safe limits?" Seems awfully vague to me!

The title of this thread? What produces Ruthless Dictators?

quote writer:

My last point I feel is so very important, that is that potential ruthless dictators believe that they must control others to right the wrongs and fix all the injustice. Therefore, marxism, communism, and those types of governments are well suited for them, because if they can gain power, they can control everybody and everything. It was suggested that some may use capitalism, but I don't think pure capitalism is their favored environment because it doesn't allow their government power to run everything. Freedom, individual rights and responsibilities, free enterprise, capitalism, these things are not well suited for such people. In a free country, they will maybe mistreat their families, maybe become criminals, or simply be unhappy all their lives, whatever, but at least the political system does not allow them to gain enough power to grind their axes against everybody. As I said before, it is so important for our country to remain moral and upright, thus we will most likely elect and allow people that are more like us into positions of authority to make decisions that will continue the great free country that we have. If too many people become hopeless, angry, dysfunctional, and with axes to grind, they will elect or promote people like them into positions of authority, at which time laws and policies, even our system of government would become in danger of being changed.

dear possum, you will let us know when you have an original thought to post won't you?

This was a study of the childhood environments, conditions, and personality types, and it turned out from my research that there were indeed common characteristics and environments that produced such dictators, from their childhood on. I've categorized these factors as follows:

1 - Dysfunctional family and troubled childhood that extends into adulthood. This includes troubled spousal relationships and other relationships as adults.
2 - Rejection and/or hate for religious belief, sometimes despite training as a child. As they grow into adulthood, they have a hatred or unresolved resentment toward certain groups, races, or religion.
3 - They perceive injustice from childhood and develop a burning desire to dominate, gain power, and right the wrongs toward society and to them as they view it. Typically there is a hate for business and private enterprise, as it is viewed as unfair and the cause of much injustice and suffering, and religion is also viewed as a failure, so government and they are the hope of righting the wrongs and creating their vision of utopia on earth.

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