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What produces RUTHLESS DICTATORS?

 
 
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 29 Jul, 2009 01:13 am
@okie,
okie wrote:
Neo- National Socialist German Workers' Party was in Germany, not here.


I'm not aware of such a party.
I was only using the common term 'Neo-Nazi'.


And - if you only go by names, as you int the USA are associating them - what do you think the politics of the Christian Social Union might be? Very Happy
okie
 
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Reply Wed 29 Jul, 2009 01:33 am
@Walter Hinteler,
You added the "Neo" prefix, I didn't.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 29 Jul, 2009 01:44 am
@okie,
Sorry. Seems to be something wrong with my internet/computer/monitor

http://i26.tinypic.com/6td3ip.jpg
okie
 
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Reply Wed 29 Jul, 2009 01:55 am
@Walter Hinteler,
To spell it out for you, National Socialist German Workers' Party was in Germany, not here. Then the "Neo" was added as a prefix, as used by you, as I pointed out, but that doesn't change where the Nazis came from, Walter, and they aren't here, in case you are still looking for them. Got that now, Walter?
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 29 Jul, 2009 03:01 am
@okie,
okie wrote:

To spell it out for you, National Socialist German Workers' Party was in Germany, not here. Then the "Neo" was added as a prefix, as used by you, as I pointed out, but that doesn't change where the Nazis came from, Walter, and they aren't here, in case you are still looking for them. Got that now, Walter?


No, I didn't get it. (Might be a language problem and lack of knowledge of history as well as political sciences and German culture etc)

But the NSDAP came from the DAP (Deutsche Arbeiter Partei). Do you know here better as well?
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DrewDad
 
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Reply Wed 29 Jul, 2009 06:49 am
@okie,
okie wrote:
National Socialist German Workers' Party

Calling a cow pat a rose doesn't make it smell any nicer.

We discussed this pages ago, now he's back to his central argument that "<gasp>! The word socialist appears in the Nazi party's real name!"
parados
 
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Reply Wed 29 Jul, 2009 06:59 am
@DrewDad,
Except of course "socialist" doesn't really appear in it. He is using the English translation and then applying his definition of "socialism" to somehow give meaning to a German word that was used to fool people into believing something about the NSDAP.

It's a good thing he didn't live in Germany at the time or he would have been hoodwinked by Hitler's use of language.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 29 Jul, 2009 07:41 am
@parados,
Actually, "sozialistisch" in German of those days just and only meant that someone or something was "supporting the Social-Democrats". (See Grimms Deutsches Wörterbuch, volumne 16, lines 1826 - 1831, "sozialistisch").

Everyone was aware of the (literal as well as "by mouth") fights between the NSDAP and the SPD ...
okie
 
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Reply Wed 29 Jul, 2009 09:12 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Small problem for you, some of the policies of the Nazis, as spelled out in the 25 points, are socialist principles, beliefs, or policies. I explained that to you on Page 2.
dyslexia
 
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Reply Wed 29 Jul, 2009 09:14 am
yeah Walter pay attention, Okie explained that to you on Page 2.
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okie
 
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Reply Wed 29 Jul, 2009 09:15 am
@parados,
parados wrote:

It's a good thing he didn't live in Germany at the time or he would have been hoodwinked by Hitler's use of language.

Well, I live in America, and I am not being hoodwinked by Obama's use of language. Are you?

For all libs, I am not claiming Obama is a murderer, but I am claiming he lies and misrepresents the truth, and I am not falling for it. Not a sucker, as his followers are.
dyslexia
 
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Reply Wed 29 Jul, 2009 09:16 am
@okie,
Quote:
I am not a crook
Richard Nixon.
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Wed 29 Jul, 2009 09:19 am
@okie,
Quote:
in all of my years of public life I have never obstructed justice
Richard Nixon
Thomas
 
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Reply Wed 29 Jul, 2009 09:22 am
@dyslexia,
Don't diss Richard Nixon. He was actually one of the better Republican presidents. (Faint praise, I know.)
okie
 
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Reply Wed 29 Jul, 2009 09:27 am
I was not enthusiastic with Nixon, either before or after he was elected, but I may have voted for him simply because he was a far cry better than the alternative. As pointed out, Nixon got kicked out for wiretapping, or just knowing about it, while Democratic predecessors that did this are still worshiped as great presidents. Go figure. Thats the libs thinking power for you.

Nixon was not even a conservative in many ways. We knew this at the time.

Actually, I don't remember if I voted for him or not, I may not have voted yet at that time.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 29 Jul, 2009 09:29 am
@okie,
okie wrote:

Small problem for you, some of the policies of the Nazis, as spelled out in the 25 points, are socialist principles, beliefs, or policies. I explained that to you on Page 2.


You should widen your studies on the NSDAP history and read a bit about those 25 points.

Perhaps -but I sincerely doubt that- you see how and where you were mislead.
okie
 
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Reply Wed 29 Jul, 2009 09:33 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Yes, professor. Are you going to try to make the case that the points don't mean what they say? Sure, sure. Are you a lawyer too? 2 + 2 does not equal 4, is that it?
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Wed 29 Jul, 2009 09:34 am
@okie,
(Spiro) Agnew is the only Vice President in U.S. history to resign because of criminal charges.
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Thomas
 
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Reply Wed 29 Jul, 2009 09:34 am
@okie,
okie wrote:
Nixon was not even a conservative in many ways. We knew this at the time.

I know. That's why he was one of the better ones. I think his enduring legacy was to end the draft. That alone tempts me to for give him for Watergate, although I like his starting up the EPA, too.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 29 Jul, 2009 09:36 am
@okie,
okie wrote:

Well, I live in America, and I am not being hoodwinked by Obama's use of language.


But your German is good enough to beat "the most important etymological dictionaries of the German language", the Grimms Deutsches Wörterbuch?

Quote:
It was started by the Grimm Brothers in 1838. When the project finally was finished in 1961, the dictionary contains 32 volumes and includes about 350,000 main entries. In 1971 a supplement with references was published.

The Deutsches Wörterbuch contains detailed information about the origin and examples of the usage of German words, both historically and (at the time of writing) modern.


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