@georgeob1,
georgeob1 wrote:
okie wrote:
I have been reviewing some history and was reminded again that during the World War II era, communists around the world, such as here in the United States and in Britain as well, before Hitler attacked Russia they very much opposed the war against Hitler. They had a natural proclivity toward Hitler and Fascism. Their emotional tendency gravitated and sympathized with Hitler and Germany, and against free countries like Great Britain and the United States. It is entirely logical to conclude that they saw Hitler and Fascism as more closely aligned to their philosophy of a strong state, or Statism. That was the case at least until Hitler attacked Russia, which they could hardly believe would happen until it happened.
You are dead wrong on this point.
I think you should do some more review of the histoty to get your facts straight. The NAZIs were fierce opponents of the German Communist party, which in 1930 was one of the strongest in western Europe. By the time Hitler came to power, the German Communist party was largely destroyed and many of its members were later exected. A similar fate befell Communists supporters in Italy, Romania and Hungary under their Facist dictators.
Sure, nobody denies that for crying out loud. The Nazis were opposed to the communists in Germany because they were opponents to what has been called another way, a third way, borrowing aspects of capitalism and communism. What I said was that communists in parts of the world opposed our opposition to Hitler. At least I read that about communists in Great Britain and the United States.
Quote:Most people in Britain and America, left and right in the political spectrum, were reluctant to engage or oppose the NAZI government. This was particularly true in America where the oceans gave us a wide separation from the danger. In the campaign for the 1940 presidential election in the U.S. it was the Republicans in particular who were opposed to intervention in Europe. To some degree the official policy of the Stalin regime limited talk among Communist Party officials, both in Russia and abroad, concerning opposition to NAZI Germany. It is very clear from the historical record this came not from sympathy of common goals, but rather from fear and Stalin's delusion that he could lure Hitler into attacking only the West - at least long enough to enable him to recover from his recent purges of most of the officer corps in the Red Army.
I don't know how you know it is clear from the historical record, George. What is clear is that Hitler was just as philosophically connected to communists as he was capitalists. He railed against capitalists, and if there was a central theme of his hatred, it was the hatred of Jews, one big reason being they represented what he considered to be the greed of capitalism, everything bad about a human race of people, which he felt needed to be exterminated. It wasn't merely the Jews, but the capitalistic greed they represented.
Today's Leftists hate it when they are reminded that Hitler was a Leftist, so leftist intelligentsia has worked very hard to twist the historical record of what Hitler believed and did. What I am doing is simply pointing out facts. I do not have the bias that Europeans and in particular Germans may carry around still to this very day.
