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Task for Dialogue

 
 
coberst
 
Reply Tue 13 Dec, 2005 06:40 am
Task for dialogue

Let's examine the task of synthesizing my views on reality with your views on reality. I mention this because it might be a useful way for empathizing with the Iraqis as they tackle the problem of putting together their constitution.

I write my essay based upon my understanding and you write yours based upon your understanding and then through dialogue and dialectic rationalization we synthesize into a new essay comprising our two thoughts. I can imagine such a task to be almost insurmountable. Take this a step further and add fifty others and I think we can get an idea of their problem except that we must add to the thesis on reality the subjects of religion, economics, education, etc.

One can, by reading the papers, discover various opinions that others might have regarding the matter. However, it is up to the individual, in the solitude of her intellect, to provide the various actors. The enlightened individual must create the multifaceted argument internally. The individual must empathetically create the dialogue and the dialectic within her own mind.

Imagine the number of "frames of reference" one would bring to bear on the issue of the democratization phase of the Iraq war. If one becomes consciousWe waste our most precious gift, the gift of intellect, on nonsense.What a terrible waste, this intellect left to wonder undirected.
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stuh505
 
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Reply Tue 13 Dec, 2005 09:55 am
Well, Coberst, I'm sorry to hear that you have chosen a path in life that you feel wastes your intellect. Maybe it's not too late to change that, because there are a lot of people who use and stretch their intellect every day as part of their career.

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It is ant-intellectual because such a position favors the interests of the plutocracy and the religious community.


Where on EARTH did you get that idea from? Oh, right...your dreams!
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coberst
 
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Reply Tue 13 Dec, 2005 02:37 pm
Stuh

You are correct somewhat. As you can see that paragraph does not fit in this post. I have been reading some stuff on anti-enlightenment and for some reason I went off on a binge and slapped that paragraph in there.
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spendius
 
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Reply Tue 13 Dec, 2005 03:28 pm
Chuck-

I would argue that the more tasks you set the intellect the more you will slow it down.I think it is self tasking.I don't think you can force it.You need to be patient.Let it "twig" it.A body builder doesn't look fit to me.Soccer players look fit.Anybody can be a body builder but not anybody can be an international soccer player.You can end up with serious narcissism body building.You are only up against the limits of your self tasking.Soccer players are up against other soccer players.
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stuh505
 
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Reply Tue 13 Dec, 2005 10:18 pm
Spendius,

I don't think so. When I use my brain a lot in studying or researching, it goes into a mode where all it wants to do is solve problems, and I will spend every waking minute of my free time happily doing more computation. But, if I don't have a lot of mentally stimulating work going on, it's hard to get my mind to want to work at all.
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coberst
 
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Reply Wed 14 Dec, 2005 04:29 am
I think that the 'mind' is like a little boy that runs and plays and will become a responsible adult only with firm control by a parent.
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spendius
 
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Reply Wed 14 Dec, 2005 05:46 am
stuh-

You haven't said anything there that changes my view.I recognise that when one is at work on a problem there is a degree of stimulation and focus and that such things can actually become addictive.
I presume that your study and research is associated with getting money in some way or approval.

Coberst was talking about deliberately tasking the brain in order to stimulate it and discipline it.Such things as crosswords and puzzles being simple examples.I think that these leave one open to being manipulated in a Palovian manner.There is psychological reward involved.I would say that they are distractions.In my pub there is a quiz once a week.Most people do the quiz or ignore it.I watch the mechanics of the quiz and can explain now how quizes are constructed and the patterns the compilers are using in order to manipulate these mugs who seem to believe that a high score proves superior intelligence whereas they are a lure to get the beer sales up and increase contactless sociability.What basically happens is that the whole mental structure of the participants is being controlled by the quizmaster for the two hours they engage in this futile activity.

I tend to think that what you are saying above is a function of disappointment with your own mind which you seek to overcome by trying to jump start it.Why is it a problem if it is hard to get your "mind" to work at all.(I don't distinguish mind/body/brain-I'm just me.A unity.)

Have you ever tried watching the instrument known as television rather than the individual programmes?

Chuck wrote-

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I think that the 'mind' is like a little boy that runs and plays and will become a responsible adult only with firm control by a parent.


Dear me!We would still be swinging in the trees with a principle like that.Are you a Presbyterian?

"The sweet,pretty things are in bed now of course,
The city fathers are trying to endorse
The reincarnation of Paul Revere's horse
And the town has no need to be nervous."

Stuck Inside of Mobile with the Memphis Blues,Again. Bob Dylan (apologies for quote errors).
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