1
   

[Answered] What is an inverted clock?

 
 
Reply Mon 28 Nov, 2005 08:59 am
I know it involves synchronising the sampling by "off to on" transistions as opposed to "on to off" transitions in normal clocking, but I am unsure why it is implemented and under what situations it is suggested to use it.
I can't find a good article on its uses and how it operates, I was hoping someone could help me with this Smile
  • Topic Stats
  • Top Replies
  • Link to this Topic
Type: Discussion • Score: 1 • Views: 1,490 • Replies: 5
No top replies

 
Heliotrope
 
  1  
Reply Mon 28 Nov, 2005 03:22 pm
Triggering on the falling edge of the clock pulse is often used when you have noise on the clock lines.
Noise or spikes are usually manifest as very sharp increases in voltage over a short timescale.
The steep risetime of the noise spike can be mistaken by the following circuitry as an actual clock pulse.
This leads to timing inaccuracies and false or ghost triggering.

It's easy to implement a filter to eliminate the spikes but it still leaves you with other longer-timescale anomalies that can also cause erronious triggering.

If you trigger on the negative-going edge you're a lot less likely to be affected by noise or other factors influencing triggering because there aren't many anomalous phenomena that stay high for a while and then fall at exactly the wrong moment.
Anomalies usually come and go very quickly.
0 Replies
 
Perdition
 
  1  
Reply Mon 28 Nov, 2005 03:45 pm
hmm, so is it always best to use an inverted clock? are there times when it will be detrimental to do so? for example i found this on a site:

"Typical delays indicate that the inverted clock may be appropriate above 1.3 megabits per
second (Mbps), depending upon the DTE clock-to-data skews and setup required, and allowing some margin for temperature, cable, and other variables. Some DCE devices will not accept SCTE, so Serial Clock Transmit (SCT) must be used. Inverting the clock may be the only way to compensate for the cable length and circuit delays in the DTE and DCE."

This suggests that inverted clocks are appropriate for higher speeds yet are not recommended except for certain situations.
0 Replies
 
Heliotrope
 
  1  
Reply Tue 29 Nov, 2005 12:58 am
Nope.
Nowt to do with the speed.
It's to overcome the extra noise, random phase errors, ground lifts and other rubbish on the cable due to it's extra length.

Basically they're wanting/needing to use a longer cable than the design specs suggest. This introduces all sorts of other issues, noise and signal loss due to the extra attenuation over the length of the cable being the primary ones.
So they suggest using a -ve edge trigger to ensure that the noise doesn't cause problems.
It's a technique you can use to avoid spending more money. It's just a way of squeezing more bandwidth and performance out of the cable you have to hand.

There are other ways in which you could overcome the losses and extra noise of a longer cable but they're pretty much all expensive or involve extra circuitry which is also expensive.
Low loss cables, transparent buffer amps with a huge bandwidth, opto-couplers etc... All expensive stuff.
Simply inverting the clock with a high slew-rate not gate would be the way to go.
A Schmitt triggered inverting buffer IC would be my choice but naturally I don't know exactly what the application is.
0 Replies
 
Perdition
 
  1  
Reply Wed 30 Nov, 2005 12:39 pm
Thanks for the comprehensive answer Helio Smile It's people like you that make me strive to be a better... something goodly Very Happy
0 Replies
 
Heliotrope
 
  1  
Reply Mon 5 Dec, 2005 10:58 am
No worries.
Cool
0 Replies
 
 

Related Topics

Clone of Micosoft Office - Question by Advocate
Do You Turn Off Your Computer at Night? - Discussion by Phoenix32890
The "Death" of the Computer Mouse - Discussion by Phoenix32890
Windows 10... - Discussion by Region Philbis
Surface Pro 3: What do you think? - Question by neologist
Windows 8 tips thread - Discussion by Wilso
GOOGLE CHROME - Question by Setanta
.Net and Firefox... - Discussion by gungasnake
Hacking a computer and remote access - Discussion by trying2learn
 
  1. Forums
  2. » [Answered] What is an inverted clock?
Copyright © 2025 MadLab, LLC :: Terms of Service :: Privacy Policy :: Page generated in 0.03 seconds on 12/28/2025 at 04:16:33