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Reply Tue 15 Nov, 2005 01:04 pm
Question I am trying to find the name of the first person to design and construct an all-metal aircraft. Any help to point me in the right direction will be much appreciated. Smile
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Francis
 
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Reply Tue 15 Nov, 2005 01:47 pm
"STOUT METAL AEROPLANE CO. DETROIT, 1924 - Stout built a larger all metal plane, a high wing monoplane with a Liberty engine that would carry eight passengers."

"1926 - With the production of the Ford Tri-Motor, the first all-metal airplane, Ford Motor Company becomes the world's largest manufacturer of airplanes."
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timberlandko
 
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Reply Tue 15 Nov, 2005 01:49 pm
That honor probably goes to Germany's Hugo Junkers.

http://www.centennialofflight.gov/essay/Evolution_of_Technology/metal_plane/Tech15G1.jpg

The Junkers F13 (the export version was designated JL6), introduced in 1919, is generally considered to be the first successful all-metal plane.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 15 Nov, 2005 02:07 pm
Yes, I'm rather sure, timber is correct.
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Francis
 
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Reply Tue 15 Nov, 2005 02:08 pm
I'm not against...
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 15 Nov, 2005 02:09 pm
... but Junkers constructed already in 1915 with a similar airplane, the J1 :wink:

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December 12, 1915 in History

Event:
1st all-metal aircraft (Junkers J-1) test flown at Dessau Germany
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Francis
 
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Reply Tue 15 Nov, 2005 02:36 pm
From the site about Stout, this title :

WALTER FACES CRITICAL PROBLEM ON TEST FLIGHT

Laughing Laughing
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 15 Nov, 2005 02:45 pm
That's why I joined the navy (and because I can swim, but not fly).
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Tue 15 Nov, 2005 02:50 pm
You know Walter I have tremendous sympathy with that

I can swim
I can walk
but not being a duck
to fly the ****
I can
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Francis
 
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Reply Tue 15 Nov, 2005 02:55 pm
Is Walter a **** navy admiral? :wink:
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timberlandko
 
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Reply Tue 15 Nov, 2005 03:59 pm
Good catch, Walter - the J1 probably was the first all-metal airframe to fly, and was more or less a "proof-of-concept" project which developed into the all-metal J4 of 1917, the first dedicated ground-attack plane - its engine and crew compartments even had light armor - of which perhaps a couple hundred were produced, with a somewhat smaller number actually deployed and seeing service. Due to the weight of its armor and armament, it was a lumbering beast, slow-flying, ceiling-limited, and sluggish at the controls. The post-war F13 essentially amounted to a civilianized variant, lighter, unarmed, unarmored, with a more powerful engine and better aerodynamics, making it the first successful all metal civilian plane.
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justaclue
 
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Reply Wed 16 Nov, 2005 03:00 am
Thanks for you help, although i think the last few posts have got away from my original question!! I see you are still around Francis!!
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NickFun
 
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Reply Sat 26 Nov, 2005 01:09 pm
Francis wrote:
Is Walter a **** navy admiral? :wink:


I don't know if he's a **** Navy Admiral but I do suspect he's SOME kind of Navy Admiral.
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Francis
 
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Reply Sat 26 Nov, 2005 01:15 pm
a four stars admiral...
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sat 26 Nov, 2005 01:41 pm
Actually, I didn't get a star at all:

http://www.marine.de/02DB070000000001/CurrentBaseLink/W26DBHFB963INFODE/$FILE/OMaat-80x148.jpg - instead of the 'normal anchor' a got this one, though http://www.marine.de/02DB070000000001/CurrentBaseLink/W26DLD6Z536INFODE/$FILE/Marineführungsdienst-140x182.jpg

(What rank do you expect a conscript could get with the marks "H. doesn't show military attitudes" :wink: )
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