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Bush Picks Judge Samuel Alito for Supreme Court

 
 
Debra Law
 
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Reply Mon 9 Jan, 2006 03:01 am
Meet the Press
Transcript for January 8

SEN. JOHN CORNYN, (R-TX), and SEN. CHARLES SCHUMER, (D-NY), discuss Supreme Court nominee, Samuel Alito, and the confirmation hearing commencing tomorrow.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10721401/

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MR. RUSSERT: Let me turn to the nomination of Samuel Alito to the Supreme Court. The hearings begin tomorrow. Senator Schumer, back in 2001 you wrote a letter to President Bush and you said this: “The ABA evaluation has been the gold standard by which judicial candidates are judged...”

Gold standard.

SEN. SCHUMER: Yes.

MR. RUSSERT: And now we have this from the ABA: “Samuel A. Alito Jr. (nominated 11/10/05), to be an associate justice to the U.S. Supreme Court. Rating: ‘Well qualified’ by unanimous vote of the standing committee” of the ABA. It’s the gold standard. He’s rated well qualified. Game, set, match.

SEN. SCHUMER: Not quite, Tim. Don’t push it. Not that fast. Let me say this: The bar association is the gold standard for the two things they measure, competence—in other words, their qualifications—and their judicial temperament. Judge Alito certainly has a judicial temperament. He went to I think it is Princeton—Right? -- Yale Law School. Very bright man. That’s all the bar association judges. The most important qualification for a judge—and I made this argument in 2001 as well—and that is their judicial philosophy. They have enormous power in this lifetime appointment to be a Supreme Court justice. How are they going to use it? Are they going to follow the law or are they going to impose their views on the American people in a very ideological way? And judges at the extreme far right, far left, tend to do that.

The big outstanding question about Judge Alito is the third question. So no one disputes his legal education, the experience he’s had. It’s been very good. No one disputes that he has judicial temperament. There’s a great deal of question on his judicial philosophy. He has said some very, very, very extreme things throughout his career, both when he worked for Ronald Reagan and as a judge.

MR. RUSSERT: But here’s the situation, as many people see it. When Ruth Bader Ginsburg was put forward by Bill Clinton, she had been general counsel for the ACLU. Steven Breyer has worked for Ted Kennedy, and yet they were overwhelmingly confirmed because they had competence and temperament, as you say.

SEN. SCHUMER: Right. . . .


The transcript is 5 pages long. If you're interested, go to the webpage to continue reading.
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Debra Law
 
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Reply Mon 9 Jan, 2006 03:39 am
UNITARY Executive Branch

More of the Meet the Press transcript:

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SEN. SCHUMER: Well, I’ve talked to him about this, and let me say he did not—I asked him would he change his position, particularly there’s a new case, Raiche, which even affirms even further the right to do this, and he wouldn’t give me an answer. We’ll see what he says at the hearings. That’s why the hearings are important.

Here are a few others. He said, for instance, that a 10-year-old girl could be strip-searched even though the warrant did not call for her to be strip-searched. Chertoff—Michael Chertoff, then a justice, conservative Republican justice, said that that was wrong and wrote the majority opinion.

He has said, for instance, in the past, that one man, one vote; something that’s accepted as a tenet of our democracy that you shouldn’t have one legislative district or congressional district with 20,000 people and one with 300,000 people. He said that was OK. And, of course, he’s the only nominee, other than Robert Bork, to say that he thought his own view was that the right to choose was not protected by the Constitution.

So he has said a whole number of extreme things, and then, you know, one final thing, very relevant to the times right now, in a speech before The Federalist Society in 2000, he said he believed in the unitary executive. That means the executive has all the power. It would mean you couldn’t have an FTC. It would mean you couldn’t have a 9-11 Commission. It might mean in a time of war, relevant to today, that you could have warrants issued so you could go into someone’s home without going to a judge.

These are things that edge on the extreme. And that’s why the hearings are so important, and that’s why, Tim, questioning Judge Alito is going to be really, really important. I haven’t made up my mind about how to vote and certainly whether to block him or not, whether to urge my colleagues in the caucus to filibuster. But he’s got to answer a lot of questions.


I have read several of the president's signing statements wherein he refers to the executive branch as the "UNITARY executive branch." Where did the phrase originate? Is Bush the first president to define the executive branch as unitary? We usually refer to our government as a tripartite wherein the power is distributed and balanced among three branches. What's the deal with the UNITARY Executive Branch? Does this phrase mean that all the power now resides in the executive branch?
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blatham
 
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Reply Mon 9 Jan, 2006 07:00 am
debra

This might do the trick for you...

http://www.users.muohio.edu/kelleycs/paper.pdf
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BumbleBeeBoogie
 
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Reply Mon 9 Jan, 2006 11:03 am
Alito hearing just started
The Alito hearing just started in the Senate. Can be seen on C-SPAN.

BBB
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mysteryman
 
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Reply Mon 9 Jan, 2006 11:06 am
Re: Alito hearing just started
BumbleBeeBoogie wrote:
The Alito hearing just started in the Senate. Can be seen on C-SPAN.

BBB


Also on c o u r t t v
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FreeDuck
 
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Reply Mon 9 Jan, 2006 03:23 pm
Good link, blatham. I'm still trying to soak that all in. Very interesting.
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Debra Law
 
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Reply Mon 9 Jan, 2006 04:05 pm
Yes, thanks for the link, blatham. I couldn't get it all read this morning, but it is very interesting.

The first day of the hearings (the opening statements) just concluded. C-Span will be re-broadcast the opening statements this evening.
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FreeDuck
 
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Reply Mon 9 Jan, 2006 05:52 pm
I couldn't get through the whole thing, but what I did get brings this whole presidency into perspective. According to the Unitary theory, the president has the ability to determine for himself if laws are unconstitutional and can then decide not to enforce them. Also, the use of signing statements to convey an interpretation of the law that is contrary to Congress's intent is shown to have happened more frequently over the last 30 years but has really blown up with this presidency. My question (probably better for another thread) is isn't that essentially changing the law at signing? And wouldn't that encroach on Congress's power to make laws?
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Debra Law
 
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Reply Mon 9 Jan, 2006 11:55 pm
blatham wrote:
debra

This might do the trick for you...

http://www.users.muohio.edu/kelleycs/paper.pdf


Thank you again for the link to:

Christopher S. Kelley, Ph.D., Rethinking Presidential Power -- The Unitary Executive and the George W. Bush Presidency (2005).

The paper is 60 pages long, but well worth the time to read and study. I took notes as I was reviewing each page and I intend to read it AGAIN. It is the most INFORMATIVE paper that I have read in a very long time. It should be mandatory reading for every member of Congress and every citizen who cares about being informed.

Like FreeDuck, I'm trying to soak it all in and think about the profound ramifications that Bush's enhanced version of the Unitary Executive Branch will have on this country. I HAVE a LOT to say on the subject, just want to organize my thoughts. PLEASE, everyone . . . read the paper . . . soak it in.

After I finished reading the paper, I watched C-Span's rebroadcast of today's hearing. I listened to all the opening statements by the senators on the committee. I wanted to reach into the screen and slap some sense into Senator Coburn. Why do I have this seething feeling of DISGUST for this man simply because he wants to take an axe to our liberty and privacy interests and to legislate his morals and cram them down the throats of every American citizen?
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Thomas
 
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Reply Tue 10 Jan, 2006 06:04 am
FreeDuck wrote:
My question (probably better for another thread) is isn't that essentially changing the law at signing? And wouldn't that encroach on Congress's power to make laws?

I'd say so -- especially since congress doesn't have the chance to revise the statute when it thinks the President misunderstood its language. I envision something like this ...
    Congress: There shall be a tax of five cents on each scoop of vanilla ice cream. The president: In signing this bill into law, I am presuming that "vanilla" means "chocolate" for purposes of this statute. Congress: No, wait! In writing "vanilla", we actually [i]did[/i] mean "vanilla". The President: Too late, I already signed it into law. Nja-nja-nja-nja-njaaaa-nja!


Sorry for portraying "the president" as more intellectually mature than the actual president is likely to act.
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woiyo
 
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Reply Tue 10 Jan, 2006 07:03 am
Sen. Kennedy - ""In an era when the White House is abusing power, is excusing and authorizing torture and is spying on American citizens, I find Judge Alito's support for an all-powerful executive branch to be genuinely troubling," said Sen. Edward M. Kennedy of Massachusetts"

Objectivity seems to be beyond this mans ability. His arrogance and exageration should be an embarrassment to the Committee.

"Specter said he was concerned that "so many senators are already in concrete without having heard from the nominee. That applies to a few of the senators on my side of the aisle but many more among the Democrats. ... A number of the opening statements by the Democrats sounded more like indictments than opening statements," he said. "

So am I.

This process of selecting a Jusitce to the USSC is the most important part of the political process. More important than electing Senators or Presidents.

The PEOPLE should insist that the members of the committee be objective and honest in their appraisal of a nominee.

Kennedy and Schumer are 2 of the least likely to adhere to these principles. They are an embarrasement to their position and their fellow committee members.
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Brandon9000
 
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Reply Tue 10 Jan, 2006 07:05 am
Hopefully, as the new Supreme Court makes conservative decision after conservative decision over the years, slowly it will change the culture until the die-hard leftists are an isolated minority.
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Thomas
 
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Reply Tue 10 Jan, 2006 07:36 am
Brandon and woiyo: One of the refreshing aspects of this issue is that this is not a classical partisan fight between conservative and liberal. For example, Debra and I don't agree on much, but we do agree on this. Another example comes from the paper Debra recommended. President Clinton also didn't agree with either president Bush on much, but fit right into the Republican tradition of extending the executive's power to the detriment of the other branches of government. For a last example, the conservative justices Scalia and Thomas, who don't disagree on a terrible lot, do profoundly disagree about the extent of the presidents power during wartime. In Hamdi v. Rumsfeld, both justices wrote passionate dissents -- Scalia on the 'liberal' or 'libertarian' side of the majority (justice Stevens joined him), Thomas on the 'imperial' side of it.

This is not your run-of-the-mill partisan fight, no matter which side of it you stand on.
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FreeDuck
 
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Reply Tue 10 Jan, 2006 07:36 am
Thomas wrote:
FreeDuck wrote:
My question (probably better for another thread) is isn't that essentially changing the law at signing? And wouldn't that encroach on Congress's power to make laws?

I'd say so -- especially since congress doesn't have the chance to revise the statute when it thinks the President misunderstood its language. I envision something like this ...
    Congress: There shall be a tax of five cents on each scoop of vanilla ice cream. The president: In signing this bill into law, I am presuming that "vanilla" means "chocolate" for purposes of this statute. Congress: No, wait! In writing "vanilla", we actually [i]did[/i] mean "vanilla". The President: Too late, I already signed it into law. Nja-nja-nja-nja-njaaaa-nja!


Sorry for portraying "the president" as more intellectually mature than the actual president is likely to act.


That's kind of the impression that I got too. I have no idea how such a dispute would be settled.
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Thomas
 
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Reply Tue 10 Jan, 2006 08:02 am
On a tangent to my remark that "this is not your run-of-the-mill partisan issue": I can't possibly resist the temptation of pointing out to Blatham that Doonesbury has outed President Bush as a hippie.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Tue 10 Jan, 2006 09:13 am
Alito and the Ted Kennedy "Study"
The Democratic senator bases his charges on a very wobbly foundation

In his opening statement at the Samuel Alito confirmation hearings Monday afternoon, Massachusetts Democratic Sen. Edward Kennedy cited an academic study which he said showed that average Americans "have had a hard time getting a fair shake" in Alito's courtroom at the U.S. Court of Appeals. Alito's decisions in the cases of individual rights, Kennedy said, are part of a "record that troubles me deeply."

"In an era when too many Americans are losing their jobs, or working for less and trying to make ends meet, in close cases Judge Alito has ruled the vast majority of the time against the claims of individual citizens," Kennedy said. "He has acted instead in favor of the government, large corporations, and other powerful interests. In a study by a well-respected expert, Professor Cass Sunstein of the University of Chicago Law School, Judge Alito was found to rule against the individual in 84 percent of his dissents. To put it plainly, average Americans have had a hard time getting a fair shake in his courtroom."

As evidence for his claim, Kennedy's staff handed out copies of a December 29, 2005, letter from Sunstein to Kennedy outlining the findings of the study to members of the press at the hearings. But even a cursory reading of the Sunstein letter suggests that his analysis was so tentative, so filled with caveats, and based so extensively on political assumptions as to prove virtually nothing.

In the letter, Sunstein began by saying that he had done the study not for reasons of academic curiosity but because Kennedy asked him to. "This will respond for your request for an analysis of the dissenting opinions of Justice Samuel Alito," Sunstein wrote, "and in particular of the percentage of Judge Alito's dissenting opinions that rule in favor of individual rights."

Sunstein then said the story is "long and quite complex" and that he would "be offering many disclaimers" throughout his presentation of findings. Sunstein's first disclaimer came three sentences later when he said of the 84 percent number, "A summary statistic of this kind must be taken with many grains of salt and with appropriate qualifications." Sunstein also said that his work was "crude" and done "under considerable time pressure."

The main finding of the study, Sunstein wrote, was that in looking at Alito's dissents ?- 45 cases in all ?- Alito had ruled against "individual rights" 84 percent of the time. But Sunstein immediately began making qualifications about the reliability of his conclusions. In a number of cases, he wrote, it was difficult to decide which side of the case favored individual rights ?- what would that be, for example, when a labor union sought the home addresses of its members? And then, Sunstein said, there was no real evidence to conclude that "any individual vote is unreasonable." Finally, Sunstein frankly admitted that he applied a frankly political standard to his work:

A natural question is whether Judge Alito is dissenting from majority opinions that distort the law. Perhaps he is rejecting decisions ruling in favor of individual rights when such a ruling is unwarranted under existing law. One way to test that questions, admittedly imperfect, is to see whether he has dissented mostly from opinions by two Democratic nominees. (It is not terribly likely that Republican appointees will regularly distort the law in a way that favors individual rights.)

Even further, Sunstein said that he had employed "a high degree of discretion" in analyzing Alito's work. "A preliminary analysis suggests two points," Sunstein wrote. "First, Judge Alito's opinions are carefully reasoned, well-done, attentive to law, lawyerly, and unfailingly respectful to his colleagues. Second, it is fair to say that the law, fairly interpreted, could well be taken to support those claims. Hence he has exercised his own discretion, not lawlessly but in a way that helps to illuminate his general approach to the law."

Finally, Sunstein could not even say that the 84-percent figure is too high. "With many apologies for the crudeness of this method of coding, I can report that many prominent Republic nominees tend to show a complex pattern of dissenting opinions, dissenting 'from the left,' as they understand the law, as well as 'from the right,'" Sunstein wrote. The decisions of many Republican nominees, he continued, show that "they read the law in a way that does not fit with conventional political ideology."

Sunstein concluded with two more disclaimers. First, he said he was not saying whether Alito should be confirmed or not. And second, he said his findings must be regarded "as tentative and preliminary." Nevertheless, it is expected that Kennedy will cite the Sunstein study again when he has a chance to question Alito on Tuesday.
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Tue 10 Jan, 2006 09:17 am
Thomas wrote:
On a tangent to my remark that "this is not your run-of-the-mill partisan issue": I can't possibly resist the temptation of pointing out to Blatham that Doonesbury has outed President Bush as a hippie.


Laughing Laughing Laughing
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blatham
 
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Reply Tue 10 Jan, 2006 09:38 am
Thomas wrote:
On a tangent to my remark that "this is not your run-of-the-mill partisan issue": I can't possibly resist the temptation of pointing out to Blatham that Doonesbury has outed President Bush as a hippie.


thomas

Yes, I saw that. Hilarious. He's THE brightest political satirist working now in the US.
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BumbleBeeBoogie
 
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Reply Tue 10 Jan, 2006 10:26 am
BBB
blatham wrote:
Thomas wrote:
On a tangent to my remark that "this is not your run-of-the-mill partisan issue": I can't possibly resist the temptation of pointing out to Blatham that Doonesbury has outed President Bush as a hippie.

thomas
Yes, I saw that. Hilarious. He's THE brightest political satirist working now in the US.


Gary Trudeau is a national treasure.

BBB
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Debra Law
 
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Reply Tue 10 Jan, 2006 06:56 pm
FreeDuck wrote:
Thomas wrote:
FreeDuck wrote:
My question (probably better for another thread) is isn't that essentially changing the law at signing? And wouldn't that encroach on Congress's power to make laws?


I'd say so -- especially since congress doesn't have the chance to revise the statute when it thinks the President misunderstood its language. I envision something like this ...
    Congress: There shall be a tax of five cents on each scoop of vanilla ice cream. The president: In signing this bill into law, I am presuming that "vanilla" means "chocolate" for purposes of this statute. Congress: No, wait! In writing "vanilla", we actually [i]did[/i] mean "vanilla". The President: Too late, I already signed it into law. Nja-nja-nja-nja-njaaaa-nja!


Sorry for portraying "the president" as more intellectually mature than the actual president is likely to act.


That's kind of the impression that I got too. I have no idea how such a dispute would be settled.




The Supreme Court held that the "line-item veto" was unconstitutional. Keep that in mind as you consider the following:

The PRESENTMENT CLAUSE of the Constitution requires Congress, after they have passed a law, to present the law to the President. Upon presentation, the president has TEN days to exercise one of his affirmative options:

1) approve the enactment and sign it into law; or
2) disapprove (veto) the enactment by sending it back to the originating House WITH his OBJECTIONS.

(The negative option is to do nothing. If the president does nothing--does not approve and sign or return the enactment with his objections within 10 days--the enactment automatically becomes law UNLESS Congress has adjourned. If Congress has adjourned making it impossible for the President to return the enactment within 10 days with his objections, then the enactment does NOT become law. This is called the "pocket veto.")

Accordingly, the Constitution requires the President to approve the law as a whole, or reject the law as a whole. If the President signs the enactment, that constitutionally means that he approves of the entire enactment and the entire enactment becomes law. A congressional enactment that becomes law is the SUPREME LAW OF THE LAND. If the President refuses to approve and sign, he is constitutionally mandated to veto--to return the enactment to the originating house with his OBJECTIONS.

The veto gives Congress the opportunity to CONSIDER the president's objections and to make changes accordingly. However, CONGRESS is given CONSTITUTIONAL authority to OVERRIDE the president's objections. If two-thirds of the members of Congress vote to pass the enactment over the president's objections, then the enactment BECOMES LAW.

Thereafter, the president's CONSTITUTIONAL mandate is to take care to faithfully execute the laws of the United States--and that mandate to faithfully execute includes executing the laws that the president previously had objections when CONGRESS overrides his objections.

The LAW is the LAW--no one--not even the president is above the law. Congress makes the laws--the president executes the laws. Constitutionally, the president has ONLY ONE opportunity to object to the law and that objection must take place BEFORE the enactment becomes law so that CONGRESS may consider those objections. That's it; that's the whole story.

When Congress delegated statutory authority to the president to go through a law line by line AFTER it became law and veto portions thereof, the Supreme Court declared the line-item veto to be UNCONSTITUTIONAL. The line-item veto effectively allowed the president to amend or repeal portions of laws that he objected to. However, the president doesn't have constitutional authority to amend or repeal laws--that authority belongs exclusively to CONGRESS.

President Bush is now using SIGNING STATEMENTS to issue UNCONSTITUTIONAL back-door, line-item vetos and to deprive Congress of the opportunity to address and override the president's objections. President Bush has effectively rewritten his constitutional role in the law-making / law-enforcing system of our government. He has given himself a THIRD affirmative option that doesn't exist in the constitution:

CONSTITUTIONAL: 1) approve the enactment and sign it into LAW;

CONSTITUTIONAL: 2) disapprove (veto) the enactment and return it to the originating House with his objections; or

UNCONSTITUTIONAL: 3) disapprove the enactment but sign it into LAW anyway thus depriving Congress of its constitutionally-mandated opportunity to address the president's objections and then issue a post-hoc signing statement indicating the president's refusal to enforce the enactment that he himself just signed into law.

Accordingly, the President has negated the role of Congress, usurped all government powers, and effectively has rewritten the Constitution as follows:

"The President shall faithfully execute the LAWS of the United States except, in the president's sole discretion, he chooses NOT to execute the LAWS of the United States. The president is SUPREME--above the law--and can rule the country at his pleasure."

This PERVASIVE shift of power which creates a supreme dictator cannot take place by presidential fiat--but rather requires a Constitutional amendment. Inasmuch as no sane person would ever amend the Constitution to negate the rule of law and to grant the president the powers of a dictator, the President has clearly usurped power that doesn't belong to him and has single-handedly changed America from a land that was once ruled by LAW into a land that is ruled by the president.

CONGRESS must take action against the president and remove him from office. If Congress doesn't reclaim its power, every president from BUSH on will be a de facto dictator and our laws will be relegated to mere advice that the president may follow or disregard at his pleasure.
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