twyvel wrote:
Quote:Enlightenment is the recognition, by no one, that there is no self.
I disagree. Enlightenment is to understand the true nature of the self. It is illusory, but so is everything else in this material world, thus understanding the self is understanding the material world.
Quote:The ego-self doesn't survive enlightenment, in fact it is the very disappearance of the ego-self (or sense of) that constitutes so called enlightenment.
Well, yes and no. Enlightenment doesn't kill the self, it only reveals how interconnected everything is, and that the ego is, in fact, only a very small part of a human. A human is not an independent being. We are all imperfect circles, so to speak, and only in understanding our own relation to the bigger picture (omm, the perfect circle) can we ever feel whole. So to become enlightened is not the annihalation of the self, it is merely uncovering the self for what it really is. Then you are capable of understanding how things, you included, fit together as one big, perfect circle, omm.