Vegans Guilty on all counts for malnourishing baby...

actually, there was no link. I think that there's a lot more to this story than a couple of vegan parents raising their kid vegan.

I have added a link to the yahoo.com print of the article.

so... you're saying you think this couple starved their child because they were vegans?

I believe their version of veganism lead them to starve their child.

Not starved, malnourished. Babies need fat, and animal protein, among other things to develop properly. It is criminal in the sense that the parents inflicted their morality on a helpless child- it hardly gives the child a leg-up in the world.

And I believe they were nuts. Vegan or not.

or maybe they are vegan as mormans like the bible. add stupid to that mix, and this is achieved.

I don't understand what you said above.

perhaps these people are as vegan as mormans are bible worshiping.

it's a metaphor of extremity.

I see your metaphor. Personally I see extremism as a signifier of a phsych disorder.

Really?

I see extremism as the most perfect version of a philosophy. Generally, what goes wrong with "extremists" are the inherent flaws of the philosophy itself.

And, individual choice not to their liking becomes their moral territory.

That poor baby.

yeah, poor kid.

I know quite a few vegans who quite healthy. They sure have a lot more energy and endurance than I do! And I bet their arteries are far healthier than mine.

But it takes pretty dedicated research to construct a balanced diet without animal flesh or animal products involved.
There's a lot to balancing proteins and carbohydrates, and finding sources for each type. You can't just wing it.

I suspect this couple was already pretty out there. I certainly don't think they represent vegans, any more than someone who hears voices from God represents Christianity.

If some crazy person does terrible things "in the name of Chevrolet", does that mean Chevy's are horrible cars? I feel terribly sorry for parents who are that out of it, and for the daughter, and for the whole community dealing with it.

Is there any way we can help them, and others around the world like them?

No. Obsessed people such as this do not admit of contradiction. They will have seen their conviction in terms of a conspiracy against the "truths" which they know. Nietzsche, in Beyond Good and Evil, speaks of criminals who are taken up by the authorities as considering themselves as unfortunate, not bad--they got caught. The obsessed believer is not different. Criminals do not commit a crime in the belief that they will be apprehended, quite the opposite, in fact. They cannot believe that they are doing wrong, or they lack the ability to make such judgments altogether; similarly, they cannot believe that they will be caught, nor that the authorities are competent to catch them--because this would argue against pursuing their object.

The fanatic differs, of course, in that the fanatic believes that s/he is possessed of greater "truths" and that s/he actually acts in a highly moral manner required by adherence to their "higher truth." The effect, however, is the same. Any unfortunate consequences must be attributed to the cupidity, venality or antipathy of others, because to think otherwise would be to accept the possiblity that s/he is wrong, and that just won't do.

So i suggest that you can never rid the world of such people.

CodeBorg-

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I would bet my last buck that the healthy vegans that you know are adults. There are nutrients that infants need to develop properly, that are not as important in adults.

I have read stories where parents fed their babies fat free milk on the assumption that the fat was harmful to them, as in an adult. NOT! The babies ended up with brain damage, because they need the fat in the beginning of life for proper neurological development.

I don't think that veganism is the issue at all. For some people it works, but not for babies. When the parents saw that the child was not developing normally, the diet should have quickly been put into question. This is a case of criminal neglect!

Even that testimony smells of craziness: "It was Social Services", like "the government did it, they are out to get us..." Lock them up.

There was at least one similar case in Toronto a couple of years ago. Similar situation - vegans - feeding baby soy and rice - baby malnourished and under-developed - parents ended up in jail.

Scary what people do to their children.