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Greenland really should be worried!

 
 
Reply Sun 4 Jan, 2026 08:44 am
No need to go further into the thread title comment. I think we all know why. But there is something related that ought to be addressed.

Does NATO have provisions for the scenario of a member nation attacking another member nation?

If not...this might be a good time to pass one.
 
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sun 4 Jan, 2026 09:55 am
@Frank Apisa,
There is nothing in the treaty that has this scenario in mind. (Technically, Article % would be involved)

But even if there were rules, Trump either would change or - more possible - disregard them

I've posted this on another thread
I wrote:
This picture posted by Katie Miller is revealing. She is Stephen Miller's wife... ... ...

Quote:
https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/a92761de6eb0.png

"SOON" = within a short time; quickly.
All caps is used as an alternative to rich-text "bolding" for a single word or phrase, to express emphasis.
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Sun 4 Jan, 2026 10:13 am
@Walter Hinteler,
They are all nuts, Walter.

I'm not sure anything here can stop them now. They have a lock on our Supreme Court...and that is a killer. So it is time for the United Nations to step up and stop us from running roughshod over the planet.

Question world: Do you have what it takes to step up?

izzythepush
 
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Reply Sun 4 Jan, 2026 10:53 am
@Frank Apisa,
I think Taiwan has more reason.

Trump has set a precedent with Venezuela.

The Chinese are locked and loaded and Xi has already stzted Taiwan will be reunified with China.
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Sun 4 Jan, 2026 10:58 am
@izzythepush,
Taiwan is probably in greater danger today than at any time previously. Trump is a maniac. But...because of the voters in several states...Trump is the American president.

What a total failure he is!
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sun 4 Jan, 2026 12:43 pm
In an interdview with The Atlantic Trump further speculated that Venezuela might not be the last country the US would invade. ‘We need Greenland, obviously.’ The island is ‘surrounded by Russian and Chinese ships,’ said the US president – without providing any evidence.

Quote:
Trump has said he believes that the United States needs to maintain control over the Western Hemisphere, invoking his own version of the 19th-century Monroe Doctrine, which rejected European colonialism in the hemisphere. He calls his approach the “Donroe Doctrine.” But in the interview, he said that the decision to kidnap the Venezuelan president was not made simply because of geography.

“It’s not hemisphere. It’s the country. It’s individual countries,” he said in the phone call.

I asked him whether the attack on Venezuela could indicate a willingness to take military action to seize control of Greenland, an autonomous territory within the Kingdom of Denmark, which has rejected American territorial claims. Secretary of State Marco Rubio said yesterday that the world should take notice after the Venezuela operation. “​​When he tells you that he’s going to do something, when he tells you he’s going to address a problem, he means it,” Rubio said. Trump has repeatedly said that the U.S. “needs” to control Greenland.

Trump said it was up to others to decide what U.S.-military action in Venezuela means for Greenland. “They are going to have to view it themselves. I really don’t know. He was very generous to me, Marco, yesterday,” Trump said. “You know, I wasn’t referring to Greenland at that time. But we do need Greenland, absolutely. We need it for defense.”

Trump said it was up to others to decide what U.S.-military action in Venezuela means for Greenland. “They are going to have to view it themselves. I really don’t know. He was very generous to me, Marco, yesterday,” Trump said. “You know, I wasn’t referring to Greenland at that time. But we do need Greenland, absolutely. We need it for defense.”
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sun 4 Jan, 2026 01:17 pm
Denmark urges 'respect' after Trump aide's wife posts on Greenland
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Denmark has urged the US to respect its "territorial integrity", after the wife of one of Donald Trump's top aides tweeted a map of Greenland in the colours of the American flag.
[...]
Responding to the post by Ms Miller - a right-wing podcaster and former aide to Trump during his first term - Mr Soerensen said: "Just a friendly reminder about the US and the Kingdom of Denmark: We are close allies and should continue to work together as such.

"US security is also Greenland's and Denmark's security. Greenland is already part of NATO. The Kingdom of Denmark and the United States work together to ensure security in the Arctic."
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Mon 5 Jan, 2026 03:58 am
Greenland's head of government, Jens-Frederik Nielsen, has clearly rejected Trump's claim to the island. ‘Enough is enough,’ Nielsen declared on Facebook on Monday night. "No more pressure. No more hints. No more annexation fantasies. We are open to dialogue. We are open to discussion,‘ wrote the Greenlandic head of government. However, he emphasised that this must be done ’through the appropriate channels and with respect for international law."
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Mon 5 Jan, 2026 07:16 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Kier Starmer has finally grown a backbone over Greenland despite prevaricating over Venezuela.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Mon 5 Jan, 2026 08:14 am
Trump must give up ‘fantasies about annexation’, says Greenland’s PM
Quote:
Greenland has urged Donald Trump to give up his “fantasies about annexation” after the US president, fresh from his military operation in Venezuela, again threatened to take over the Arctic territory.

In a bracingly direct statement, the Greenlandic prime minister, Jens-Frederik Nielsen, accused the US of “completely and utterly unacceptable” rhetoric, declaring: “Enough is enough.”

On Sunday, Trump said the US needed Greenland “very badly” – renewing fears of a US invasion of the largely autonomous island, which is a former Danish colony and remains part of the Danish kingdom. Greenland’s foreign and security policy continues to be controlled by Copenhagen.

Greenland has urged Donald Trump to give up his “fantasies about annexation” after the US president, fresh from his military operation in Venezuela, again threatened to take over the Arctic territory.

In a bracingly direct statement, the Greenlandic prime minister, Jens-Frederik Nielsen, accused the US of “completely and utterly unacceptable” rhetoric, declaring: “Enough is enough.”

On Sunday, Trump said the US needed Greenland “very badly” – renewing fears of a US invasion of the largely autonomous island, which is a former Danish colony and remains part of the Danish kingdom. Greenland’s foreign and security policy continues to be controlled by Copenhagen.

But the US bombardment of Venezuela to capture its president, Nicolás Maduro, and Trump’s comments over the weekend have renewed fears that he may act on his threats.

Speaking on Air Force One, asked whether he expected to take action in Greenland, he refused to answer, saying he would revisit the subject “in 20 days” before going on to mock Danish defence efforts.

“Right now, Greenland is full of Chinese and Russian ships everywhere. We need Greenland for national security reasons. Denmark will not be able to handle the task.”

Last month, Danish intelligence services accused the US of using its economic power to “assert its will” and threatening military force against its allies. It comes against the backdrop of increasing tensions in the Arctic as three global superpowers – the US, China and Russia – fight for dominance over minerals and other geopolitical assets in the region as the ice melts.

Nordic neighbours Sweden, Norway and Finland have all expressed their support for Denmark. The Swedish prime minister, Ulf Kristersson, said: “Only Denmark and Greenland have the right to decide on issues concerning Denmark and Greenland. Sweden fully supports our neighbouring country.”
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Carpetbagger
 
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Reply Mon 5 Jan, 2026 07:05 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Quote:
They are all nuts, Walter.

I'm not sure anything here can stop them now. They have a lock on our Supreme Court...and that is a killer. So it is time for the United Nations to step up and stop us from running roughshod over the planet.


Isn't Nutts like a quote from World War II. Some general whom nobody knows anymore because of the idiocy that now exists (on both sides, left and right.) True story though and partially why I believe this Greenland thing should be the top joke story of the Century is..I was at the Post office today. Three employees were working there. Although you would literally believe it was like negative six employees. For every six customers, an employee would disappear.. As if he was abducted by aliens.

https://pureprimategawain.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/greenland-fish_put-it-in-a-soup.jpg
Greenland Fish. Trump is going to take all of them out of their waters and stuff them and put them on display somewhere in a nice half dark and half light lit museum. Even Mayor Bloomberg can't pass this one up.
You guys are starting to remind me of some kind of old wild west misguided lynch mob.
glitterbag
 
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Reply Mon 5 Jan, 2026 09:41 pm
@Carpetbagger,
The expression "Nuts" was made by a Military Officer in WWII when German officers offered him a chance to surrender (This was not done in Person, it was thru messages). The American General answer was "nut's", it was the refusal for the offered surrender. The Americans managed to succeed during this conflict. I've looked it up before but those are the only things I remember right now.
Ragman
 
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Reply Tue 6 Jan, 2026 07:03 am
@glitterbag,
The author of that term “Nuts” occurred during the WW II Battle of the Bulge by Gen George McAulliffe at defense of Bastogne.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 6 Jan, 2026 07:49 am
@Ragman,
The term "nuts!" gained fame in modern times from World War II's Battle of the Bulge, when U.S. General Anthony McAuliffe gave this response to the Germans.

"Nuts" historically meant crazy (mid-19th century) or something delightful ("nuts on" something), from British slang for being fond of something, with "nuts" also referring to the best of something (like "the mutt's nuts").
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 6 Jan, 2026 08:58 am
Back to the topic

Greenland belongs to its people, and only Denmark and Greenland can decide on matters concerning their relations, the leaders of France, Germany, Italy, Poland, Spain, Britain, and Denmark said in a joint statement tosay.

Quote:
Denmark’s Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen was quick to push back on Monday against Trump’s renewed call to takeover Greenland, a semi-autonomous territory of the Danish kingdom.

She said an attack by the US on a Nato ally would mean the end of the military alliance and “post-second world war security”. It would, she warned, mark the end of “everything”.

In her statement today released jointly with six other European countries (UK, France, Germany, Italy, Poland and Spain) she stressed: “Greenland belongs to its people. It is for Denmark and Greenland, and them only, to decide on matters concerning Denmark and Greenland.”

With Trump having refused to rule out the use of force to take Greenland, the Danish foreign policy committee has called an extraordinary meeting of the Danish parliament on Tuesday night to discuss its relationship with the US.

It will be attended by the foreign minister, Lars Løkke Rasmussen, and the defence minister, Troels Lund Poulsen.
The Guardian

Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 6 Jan, 2026 09:05 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Incidentally, in the Atlantic interview quoted above, Miller turned the question of territorial integrity on its head by referring to Greenland as a Danish colony and asking: ‘By what right did Denmark take over Greenland? What is the basis for Greenland being a Danish colony?’

Greenland was a Danish colony from 1721 to 1953, then became part of the Danish Realm and, from 1979, was gradually granted extensive self-government, paving the way for its current autonomy.

Specific answer to the question:
Greenland became a Danish colony in order to secure trade interests and Christianise the population, with the search for remains of the old Viking settlements also playing a major role.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 6 Jan, 2026 12:44 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:
Incidentally, in the Atlantic interview quoted above,
Neither was in The Atlantic nor did I quote it.
My bad,sorry.

But >here< is the link to the CNN interview.

According the CNN transcript, the full context of Miller’s quote was, “The United States should have Greenland as part of the United States. There’s no need to even think or talk about this in the context that you’re asking, of a military operation. Nobody’s going to fight the United States militarily over the future of Greenland.”
“We live in a world in which you can talk all you want about international niceties and everything else, but we live in a world, in the real world, Jake, that is governed by strength, that is governed by force, that is governed by power. These are the iron laws of the world that have existed since the beginning of time.”
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 6 Jan, 2026 01:06 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
The construction of the base, which began in 1949, was similar in scale to the building of the Panama Canal – except that it took place under the strictest secrecy. It was not until 1951 that French anthropologist Jean Malaurie and his Inuit companion Kutikitsoq stumbled upon the emerging facility by chance.

A cluster of huts known as Pituffik ("the place the dogs are tied") stood on the wide plain where the base was built in 1951; a main base street was named Pituffik Boulevard. The population was forcibly relocated to Thule.

The history of the base reminds us that military strategic interests have all too often been pursued at the expense of indigenous peoples.

Denmark has apologised for the forced relocation.
There has been no response from the USA – and why should there be, when they want to annex this part of the Kingdom of Denmark completely?

Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 6 Jan, 2026 01:25 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Oh, and Denmark’s Joint Arctic Command is headquartered in Greenland’s capital, Nuuk, and tasked with the “surveillance, assertion of sovereignty and military defense of Greenland and the Faroe Islands,” according to its website. It has smaller satellite stations across the island.

Faroe Islands??? Yes, part of the Kingdomof Denmark as well (the thid part is Danmark).
The Faroe Islands' military strategic importance lies in their key location in the North Atlantic, crucial for NATO's GIUK gap (Greenland-Iceland-UK) defense against potential Russian submarine activity, with plans for increased surveillance (like the Sornfelli radar) to monitor Arctic routes and reinforce NATO's northern flank. While the Faroes aim for strategic autonomy, they rely on Denmark and NATO for defense, focusing on cybersecurity, emergency preparedness, and maritime surveillance, with growing interest from the US and NATO due to changing Arctic geopolitics.

Seems, Trump doesn't know it so far.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Tue 6 Jan, 2026 03:25 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:


The construction of the base, which began in 1949, was similar in scale to the building of the Panama Canal – except that it took place under the strictest secrecy. It was not until 1951 that French anthropologist Jean Malaurie and his Inuit companion Kutikitsoq stumbled upon the emerging facility by chance.

A cluster of huts known as Pituffik ("the place the dogs are tied") stood on the wide plain where the base was built in 1951; a main base street was named Pituffik Boulevard. The population was forcibly relocated to Thule.

The history of the base reminds us that military strategic interests have all too often been pursued at the expense of indigenous peoples.

Denmark has apologised for the forced relocation.
There has been no response from the USA – and why should there be, when they want to annex this part of the Kingdom of Denmark completely?




Back when I was in service, I remember often hearing the words, "Yeah, you can do it. But you will be serving in Thule soon if you do." I was serving in SAC at the time. We were badass. One of the most badass places was Thule...lots of strategic bombers loaded with nuclear weapons. But ya had to be badassed yourself to do a stint there. Nobody wanted rotation to that freezer. I'm glad I never went. I did go to Goose Bay, Labrador. It was definitely not Miami like.
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