Greenland really should be worried!

@Ragman,

Thanks Russell, I always loved that story.

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This nuthouse crap has to stop. We have a crazed juvenile dungheap in the Whitehouse and we have to make this bullshit stop.

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@glitterbag,

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“President Trump has made it well known that acquiring Greenland is a national security priority of the United States, and it’s vital to deter our adversaries in the Arctic region. The president and his team are discussing a range of options to pursue this important foreign policy goal, and of course, utilizing the US military is always an option at the commander-in-chief’s disposal,” White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt said in a statement.

The Guardian

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@Walter Hinteler,

France has said it is working with allies on how to react if the US were to invade Greenland, amid mounting tension over Donald Trump’s escalating threats to take over the Arctic territory.

On Tuesday night, the Danish parliament held an extraordinary meeting to discuss the unprecedented situation.
Last night, Danish and Greenlandic leaders asked to meet with Mr. Rubio, according to Greenland’s foreign minister.

According to the 2004 amendment of a coldwar defense pact 1951, the United States is supposed to consult with Denmark and Greenland before it makes “any significant changes” in its military operations on the island. The 2004 amendment, which was signed by Gen. Colin L. Powell, who was then the secretary of state, explicitly recognizes Greenland as “an equal part of the Kingdom of Denmark.”

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@Walter Hinteler,

In 2022, Trump told the journalists Peter Baker and Susan Glasser: “I love maps. And I always said: ‘Look at the size of [Greenland]. It’s massive. That should be part of the United States.’”

His fascination with Greenland (and Canada) could also be explained, in part, by their size on a map. Canada is the world’s second-largest country by area and Greenland is its largest island. ´

But their northern latitudes also mean the common Mercator projection inflates their size.

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At some point, hopefully soon, he needs to be committed to an asylum. He has permanently damaged our country’s international reputation of being a trustworthy ally and a stable partner. This is not a case of just disagreeing on policies or political differences. He’s mentally ill and dangerous.

Invading Venezuela might only be a start. Why can’t the spineless jellyfish in our government stop the hemorrhaging?!

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@Ragman,

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Why can’t the spineless jellyfish in our government stop the hemorrhaging?!

because the ones with backbones are in the minority...

#VoteBlue2026

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Whatever you read – the news and (European) reactions are coming in by the hour – the constantly shifting messages from the US government are currently Denmark's (Greenland's) greatest protection. Perhaps the only protection.

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Buying Greenland seems more promising to some members of the Trump administration than war.
However, the offer is not simply directed at the Danish government. The plan is much more insidious.

Trump administration mulls payments to sway Greenlanders to join US

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U.S. officials have discussed sending lump sum payments to Greenlanders as part of a bid to convince them to secede from Denmark and potentially join the United States, according to four sources familiar with the matter.
While the exact dollar figure and logistics of any payment are unclear, U.S. officials, including White House aides, have discussed figures ranging from $10,000 to $100,000 per person, said two of the sources, who requested anonymity to discuss internal deliberations.

The idea of directly paying residents of Greenland, an overseas territory of Denmark, offers one explanation of how the U.S. might attempt to "buy" the island of 57,000 people, despite authorities' insistence in Copenhagen and Nuuk that Greenland is not for sale.
The tactic is among various plans being discussed by the White House for acquiring Greenland, including potential use of the U.S. military. But it risks coming off as overly transactional and even degrading to a population that has long debated its own independence and its economic dependence on Denmark.
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Trump said he would first seek to reach an agreement to take control of Greenland, a Danish territory, but could resort to coercive measures if that fails.

Speaking at a meeting with oil and gas executives at the White House on the 9th (local time), Trump said of securing Greenland, “I want to make a deal, and that’s the easy way, but if we don’t do it the easy way, we’ll do it the hard way.”

He added, “We will not allow Russia or China to occupy Greenland, and if we don’t take it, they will,” saying, “So we’re going to do something about Greenland—either in a friendly way or in a tougher way.”

Despite opposition from Denmark, Greenland residents and many European countries, he again stressed that he would secure it “whether they like it or not.” He went on to claim, “Russian and Chinese destroyers and submarines operate all over Greenland,” adding, “We will not have Russia or China as neighbors.”

Asked how much he would pay to win Greenlanders’ support for U.S. acquisition of the territory, Trump said, “I’m not talking about money for Greenland yet,” adding that he could discuss the issue later.

When asked why the U.S. wants to own Greenland despite being able to conduct military activities there—such as operating bases—under a defense agreement with Denmark, he said, “You have to own it to protect it. Nobody protects leased land like it’s sovereign territory.”

(Source: various media)

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While Trump is once again threatening to take Greenland, the parties there are demonstratively united in rejecting his territorial claim. ‘We don't want to be Americans, we don't want to be Danes, we want to be Greenlanders,’ says a joint statement* by the leaders of the five parties in the Greenlandic Parliament.

‘The future of Greenland must be determined by the Greenlanders,’ the politicians demanded. ‘No other country should interfere. We must decide the future of our country ourselves, without pressure to make a hasty decision, without delay and without interference from other countries.’

* (in Danish) >here< )

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Greenlandic Prime Minister Jens-Frederik Nielsen said the Arctic territory was facing a "geopolitical crisis" as Trump threatens to take it over. Denmark's Mette Frederiksen condemned "unacceptable pressure" from the US.

'We choose Denmark' over the US, Greenland’s PM says

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An interesting report* @ 'Verfassungsblog'**.
The article explains that renewed U.S. threats to annex Greenland raise complex, unresolved legal questions across international law, EU law, NATO obligations, and Danish constitutional rules, especially because Greenland has Danish sovereignty, its own right to self‑determination, and a unique EU status.

Short (AI) Summary
The piece outlines why any U.S. attempt to acquire Greenland—whether through pressure or consent—would collide with multiple legal regimes. International law forbids territorial acquisition by force, Greenland’s people hold self‑determination rights, EU mutual‑assistance obligations may or may not apply to Greenland’s territory, and Danish constitutional procedures require both Danish and Greenlandic consent. Because these frameworks overlap and contain gaps, the legality and possible responses to U.S. annexation threats remain highly uncertain.

* by Alberto Alemanno, the Jean Monnet Professor of European Union Law at HEC Paris, a Visiting Professor at the College of Europe in Bruges and Natolin, and currently a Democracy Fellow at Harvard University. He is also the founder of The Good Lobby, a nonprofit organization dedicated to enhancing the advocacy capacity of civil society organizations within and across the EU.
** Verfassungsblog (lit. 'constitution blog') is an academic blog published in German and English that in general, focuses on public law in Germany,
Europe and beyond.

Greenland and US Annexation Threats - Mapping the Legal Questions

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There are already several honorary consulates and representative offices in Greenland, but Paris now wants to expand diplomatic ties with the Arctic island and establish a ‘real’ consulate.
The representative office is scheduled to begin operations on 6 February, French Foreign Minister Jean-Noel Barrot told French broadcaster RTL.

France, Germany and other European countries already have honorary consulates in Nuuk.
The USA and Canada have consulates on the island, and Iceland has a consulate general.

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@Walter Hinteler,

A meeting between the foreign ministers of Greenland, Denmark and the United States is scheduled to take place in Washington today.

The fact that Vice President JD Vance invited himself to the meeting on Tuesday morning and moved it directly to the White House does little to improve the situation.

The Danes and Greenlanders themselves requested the clarifying talks in order to ‘clear up certain misunderstandings.’ Now both capitals fear the outcome. ‘It would already be a success if nothing happened,’ one person travelling to Washington told SPIEGEL in advance.

That is unlikely.
The situation has escalated dramatically within just a few days: on Monday, the Greenlandic Prime Minister made a surprise announcement that he wanted to entrust the security of his island to NATO – and not just to the US. The following day in Copenhagen, he went one step further and announced alongside the Danish Prime Minister: "If we have to choose between the US and Denmark here and now, we choose Denmark. We choose NATO, the Kingdom of Denmark and the EU."
It also sounded like a work order to his own foreign minister.

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@Walter Hinteler,

Lawmakers meet Danish officials to rebuke Trump’s Greenland grab

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Arctic Caucus co-Chairs Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska) and Angus King (I-Maine) will meet on Wednesday with Danish Ambassador Jesper Møller Sørensen to reaffirm their opposition to President Donald Trump’s effort to acquire Greenland.

The closed-door meeting comes as Trump has floated the idea of obtaining Greenland “one way or another” — rhetoric that has drawn sharp rebukes from Copenhagen and Nuuk. The idea of taking over the Danish territory has met resistance from some senior Republicans and outright opposition from Democrats.

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Trump makes it clear that the numerous attempts to appease him about Greenland have not changed his mind. ‘The United States needs Greenland for national security reasons,’ he wrote in a new post on Truth Social, reiterating his demand.

What is striking, however, is his reasoning. According to Trump, ownership of the island is ‘vital to the Golden Dome,’ a planned multi-layered air defence system with which the US intends to intercept missiles and cruise missiles from space in the future. In his view, NATO should support the US in taking control of the autonomously governed island, which belongs to Denmark, in its own interest.

‘NATO should lead the way,’ Trump said. The alliance would become ‘far more powerful and effective if Greenland were in the hands of the United States,’ he claimed. ‘Anything less is unacceptable.’

Trump also reiterated his warning against influence from Moscow or Beijing, without elaborating further. ‘If we don't do it, Russia or China will, and that won't happen,’ he wrote.

Trump's post @ Truth Social

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@Walter Hinteler,

A longer report in The Guardian

US president’s comments come hours before high-stakes talks between Denmark, Greenland and US
‘Unacceptable’ for Greenland not to be in US hands, says Trump

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@Walter Hinteler,

Walter Hinteler wrote:

Trump makes it clear that the numerous attempts to appease him about Greenland have not changed his mind. ‘The United States needs Greenland for national security reasons,’ he wrote in a new post on Truth Social, reiterating his demand.

What is striking, however, is his reasoning. According to Trump, ownership of the island is ‘vital to the Golden Dome,’ a planned multi-layered air defence system with which the US intends to intercept missiles and cruise missiles from space in the future. In his view, NATO should support the US in taking control of the autonomously governed island, which belongs to Denmark, in its own interest.

‘NATO should lead the way,’ Trump said. The alliance would become ‘far more powerful and effective if Greenland were in the hands of the United States,’ he claimed. ‘Anything less is unacceptable.’

Trump also reiterated his warning against influence from Moscow or Beijing, without elaborating further. ‘If we don't do it, Russia or China will, and that won't happen,’ he wrote.

Trump's post @ Truth Social

It is my opinion that EVERY COUNTRY AND PACT in existence right now should fervently oppose ANYTHING that makes the United States "more powerful" right now with someone like Trump leading it. Making the U. S. "more powerful" right now is insanity.

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Even after the crisis meeting in Washington, the dispute over Greenland remains unresolved. According to Copenhagen, Denmark, the US and the island's government have a ‘fundamental difference of opinion’.

It was agreed to establish a high-level working group to explore whether a common path could be found that would take into account both American security interests and the red lines of the Kingdom of Denmark.

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