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Fri 2 Sep, 2005 02:45 pm
I have these old German Dishes, the buttoms are flat and smooth, not round and curvy like most dishes, they are black with rose print, and there are no markings on them. The tea cups have unsual square handles, unlike your average curvy tea cups. The previous owner was an imigrant from Germany, she left before Adolf Hitler's Reign and brought these old dishes with her. My theory is that she took the markings off, before she left.
Has anybody heard of these dishes?
If so, I would like some info on them.
Can you post some photos? That would help, thanks.
jespah wrote:Can you post some photos? That would help, thanks.
I was going to write the same.
My gut reaction is that it could be an early Rosenthal design. I know it's a small picture, but does this look vaguely similar to your set?
http://www.rosenthal.de/16//Unternehmen/Geschichte/1901-1915.htm
No, it's old Holloware, older than this, and it's been passed down thru 4 generations.
ConstitutionalGirl wrote:No, it's old Holloware, older than this, and it's been passed down thru 4 generations.
Four Generations before 1933? That would put us back at least to the 1850s. I don't buy this -- whatever time this was made in, it was
much later than the 1850s!
The old owner died in her late 90's in 92, she said, she got these dishes from her Great-Grandmother.
I agree with Thomas, the dishes are very late 19th more likely early 20th century. I think CG your old lady was confused as to how long she had them.
Are you sure it is German?
Take a look through this site, maybe you'll find your
dishes.
http://cache.tias.com/showcase/1/China_and_Dinnerware/1.html
Actually the pattern looka like chintz ware:
http://www.flyingdollar.com/shabbychicboutique/agora.cgi?xm=on&product=China
Check out the cream pitcher in the second picture concerning shape. Often chintz ware is not marked.
http://www.feljoy-antiques.co.uk/victorian_chintz.htm
Victorian chintzware - 1840 - 50's
20th century chintzware
None of it is even close to what I have. Remember square handle, not round.
What exactly do you mean by "old Holloware"?
If it really is a German (or continental European) design, it most probably - as said above - should come from around 1900.
Constitutional Girl - have you looked for the pattern or design on any sites like GoogleImages or E-Bay? you would likely have better luck than we would because you actually have the pieces in front of you.
British chintzware was made as far back as the 1840's. There is nothing of that type of pattern in German production until about 70 - 80 years later.
Is the bottom of the pieces glazed?
A 38 yearold woman from Louiville, KY said on another Forum, "My grandmother used to have some very similar to that. I think she referred to them as Black Forrest Rose or something similar to that. She was also from Germany."
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