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Progressive and Hamas

 
 
gollum
 
Reply Sat 17 Aug, 2024 03:27 am
How can Progressives be silent about the atrocities of Hamas and cheer the organization on?
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Reply Sat 17 Aug, 2024 08:56 am
@gollum,
Can a conservative be wildly antisemitic and still claim to be proIsrael? No. I am proIsrael and still can see how their conservative government is violently mishandling, abusing, exploiting the Palestinian territories. And no. I am not proHamas. I am antiHamas.

I often wonder if the Palestinians promised Israel the heads of the Hamas leaders if they can swap that for statehood.
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Reply Sat 17 Aug, 2024 09:04 am
@tsarstepan,
tsarstepan-

You make some good points.
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gollum
 
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Reply Sat 27 Jun, 2026 12:45 pm
@tsarstepan,
The Palestinians can't promise Israel the heads of Hamas leaders. Hamas rules Gaza totally. Anyone who fails to instantly obey an order from Hamas is executed immediately.
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Reply Sat 27 Jun, 2026 06:46 pm
@gollum,
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The Palestinians can't promise Israel the heads of Hamas leaders. Hamas rules Gaza totally. Anyone who fails to instantly obey an order from Hamas is executed immediately.


The Book of Jubilees Chapter 8: When Noah divided the Land among his three sons, Shem received the middle portion, from the delta of the river of Egypt, north to Lebanon and east to India, while Ham received the land of Africa to the south, and Japheth received the land to the north of Lebanon, which according to the book of Jubilees 8: 30; It is said that the Land of Japheth included the five great islands and a great land in the north. But it is cold, and the land of Ham is Hot, and the land of Shem (The middle son) is neither hot nor cold, but it is of blended cold and heat.
The sons of Noah then divided their portion of land among their sons, and it is written in Jubilees 9: 14; “And thus the sons of Noah divided unto their sons in the presence of Noah their father, and he bound them all by an oath, imprecating a curse on everyone who sought to seize the portion that had not fallen to him by lot. And they all said, ‘So be it; so be it,’ for themselves and for their sons forever throughout their generations til the day of judgement, etc.”
Then in chapter 10: 29; we read; “And Canaan saw the land of Lebanon to the river Egypt, that it was very good, and he went not into the land of his inheritance to the west (That is to) the sea, and he dwelt in the land of Lebanon, eastward and westward from the border of the Jordan and from the border of the sea. And Ham his father, and Cush and Mizraim, his brothers said unto him: ‘Thou hast settled in a land which is not thine, and which did not fall to us by lot: do not do so; for if thou dost do so, thou and thy sons will fall in the land and be accursed through sedition; for by sedition ye have settled; and by sedition will thy children fall, and thou shalt be rooted out forever, etc.
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