real lifeQuote:Which of the following statements , either stated or implied by my post, do you perceive to be untrue?
a) The theory of evolution existed before Charles Darwin was born.
b) Darwin's grandfather was among those who published their ideas on evolution
c) Darwin went out and collected evidence to support the idea of evolution
d) The evidence Darwin collected was largely circumstantial
e) Darwin did this after, not before, learning of his grandfather's belief in evolution
aThere were several hypotheses of evolution that went back to the Greeks, none was a real theory. Point being?
b Erasmus published POEMS about his natural history musings. His thoughts went from Comte le Buffon and Lamarck into petic couplets and his master work Zoonomia, was a real biological page turner. Im sure you could, like the Bible, find some couplet in Erasmus that obliquely referred to atomic structure but I sorta doubt its usefulness. Erasmus is given as much due as Donald Trumps father for giving him his first coupla hundred million. You should read the Zoonomia, its not what Id carry with me to the field.
c If this were true, Darwin did a shitty job. He booked onto a boat that had a political mission to return 3 natives to the Tierra del Fuego Straights so that, along with a missionary, they could establish a presence for the EMPIRE in the southern tip of South America (the natives were , Jenny Button, York Minster, and Fuegia Basket (along with a missionary 'coast watcher"). Also there was a minor dispute among the English, Spanish, ARgentinians, and The US regarding seal hunting lands in the FAlklands so Fitzroy was to establish some outposts there in the seal hunting grounds. The fact that Darwin had no control over the destinations or the mission, he took what he could find and , in the case of the GAlapogos, he didnt even know that almost all his specimens were finches , he was more interested in the many types of turtles.
Darwin was, unlike his Grandfather, slower, more methodical and less prone to waht wed call ADD. Darwin was more interested in the natrural philosophy of Jeffrie St Hillaire, Lyell, and Humboldt, whose logs contained the questions that resounded in Darwins head
"Why are so many areas on the planet, though separated by vast differences, complet with species of animals that appear similar though are not"
Like the animals that occupy madagascar v Africa or the Animals that lie on either side of what later became Wallaces line. Speaking of Wallace, Darwin owes more to Wallace than to his grandfather. Since Wallace glimpsed the mechanism of natural selection in the beetle family and let Darwin in on his findings early. Darwin used that little kick to complete his gestating theory Massif.
Erasmus was mostly a Lamarkian, capeesh?
d Circumstantial yep, so what ? Wilson and Penzias won a Nobel prize on waht could be considered circumstantial evidence, and Nobels invention of dynamite and Einsteins positing of E=mc^2 was also circumstantial.(My favorite circumstantial story that I tell students is the famous mechanism and energy calculation for large displacement faults in the Appalachians{called gravity glide faulting} It was disccovered by M King Hubbert and WW Rubey as the skidded empty beer cans on a wet table top) This ledto the role of interbed fluids to assist in the propogation of gravity glide earthquakes in the Blue Ridge of NC and Tenn
e. Well, we certainly cant hide anything from you dear boy. Erasmus never had the chance to sail, he was a country doctor. Charles had no impediments to travel and he was less a "flamer' t5han his grandad. Im not detracting from Erasmus's place in the pantheon of amateurs. He certainly was one of the many who wrote on evolution, mostly based upon Hume and Mills philosophy and Lamarcks biology. However, to then try to make the faulty extension that Charles was merely copying Erasmus work is total BS and shows a lack of understanding of the work that Charles had embarked upon (almost unknowingly because at the start of the Beagles voyage in 1831, he had no ideas to develop what many historians now admit may be THE most important idea of the millenium)