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Setanta
 
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Reply Mon 19 Jun, 2006 10:01 am
Actually, my comment, a bit of silliness, about the fact that the Irish talk funny, refers to Sligo, which is nowhere near you. Get a grip, you've got a huge Prod chip on your shoulder. That is not my fault, nor is it my problem.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Mon 19 Jun, 2006 10:04 am
BDV wrote:
... and i will let no foreigner dictate to me what they believe is correct, no matter where their grand parents come from.


That's what some Irish say as well Crying or Very sad
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Mon 19 Jun, 2006 10:21 am
Setanta wrote:
Sadly, it will be many a long year before the hateful attitudes are gone in the six counties.
True. And it only takes a mis understood word or attitude to revert to stereotypes. Of course the Irish struggle was never fundamentally about religion. Parnell was Protestant. British troops sent "in aid of the civil authority" were initially welcomed in Catholic areas.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Mon 19 Jun, 2006 10:23 am
It is rather ironic, Steve . . . there are pictures of local Catholic mothers carrying tea out to the Brits in Derry at the beginning of the "civil rights movement."
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Mon 19 Jun, 2006 10:24 am
Quote:
Theobald Wolfe Tone was a teacher and a lawyer and, although he was a member of the Protestant Ascendency, he was also one of Ireland's greatest patriots. He helped to create the organization known as the United Irishmen while he put aside the matter of religion entirely and fought for a free Ireland where members of all classes and religions could live together in harmony. A revolutionary to the end, Theobald remained true to this dream even after he was captured, as he took his own life to avoid giving the British the satisfaction of executing him.
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Mon 19 Jun, 2006 10:28 am
Setanta wrote:
It is rather ironic, Steve . . . there are pictures of local Catholic mothers carrying tea out to the Brits in Derry at the beginning of the "civil rights movement."
Correct. And the Northern Ireland Civil Rights association was modelled on the struggle for black emancipation in S United States, going on at the same time. In 1968/9 the IRA was dead. It took sheer genius on behalf of the Ulster politicians to drive a bunch of middle class catholics and students to embrace violent revolution.
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mikey
 
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Reply Mon 19 Jun, 2006 07:06 pm
It's pretty obvious that Paisley and his merry band of bigots have no serious intention of moving the peace process forward as evidenced by his refusal to accept the nomination as First Minister of the new power sharing assembly at Stormont. Adam's sucked him right in on that classic move.


THE IRISH EMIGRANT - May 29, 2006 - Issue No. 1,008

Paisley rejects Sinn Fein nomination

The Rev. Ian Paisley displayed all the indignation he could muster when he told the speaker of the Stormont Assembly that he would "certainly not" accept a nomination as First Minister of a new power-sharing executive. Bad enough that the nomination should come from Sinn Féin president Gerry Adams but in addition to being made in the English language it was also made in Irish. At the same time Mr Adams also nominated his Sinn Féin colleague Martin McGuinness as Deputy First Minister but with Mr Paisley's refusal that wasn't put to the vote.

Mr Paisley is also involved in an attempt to frustrate Northern Secretary Peter Hain who is hoping to establish an all-party committee whose aim would be to bring about the "restoration of devolution".
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Ceili
 
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Reply Mon 19 Jun, 2006 08:26 pm
Just in time to get your jack boots, bowlers and racist banners dusted off for the marching season. Fools marching in praise of a long forgotton war stirring up hatred for the umpteenth year in a row.
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mikey
 
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Reply Mon 19 Jun, 2006 08:55 pm
never said better Ceili
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BDV
 
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Reply Tue 20 Jun, 2006 03:08 am
Any proposals which are put forward as a solution to the present difficulties of the North of Ireland must be proposals which
will provide permanent peace and stability, so that the people of Ireland of all traditions can come together on a basis of harmony and justice, ending for all time the unjust domination of any one Irish tradition by another. They must be proposals which are put forward without taking into account any sectional or party advantage, and which are arrived at by a genuine analysis of the constitutional and institutional difficulties which have led to the present situation.
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