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Too many hippies not enough punks

 
 
Montana
 
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Reply Mon 22 Aug, 2005 11:11 pm
Peace, man! Puff, puff, pass....

Carry on :-D
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nimh
 
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Reply Tue 23 Aug, 2005 03:40 am
spendius wrote:
You just tried to piss on someone who doesn't give a euphemism in favour of someone who only appears to remind us it's her anniversary i.e.does give a euphemism.

Get consistent kid.Knock off making it up as you go along.Punks are consistent.

Oh Spendius you give a euphemism all-right. You give too much of a euphemism about yourself, is the thing. That'll never make a punk; a dandy at most.
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nimh
 
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Reply Tue 23 Aug, 2005 04:05 am
Re: trying to recapture fleeting youth ... its worse than that. See, I was born in '71, so in the year Brit punk went big I was ... 6. I'm grasping back at the youth of the generation before me - how pathetic can you get! To when the yuppies hadnt fouled everything up, them and the hippies-turned-bobos..
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nimh
 
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Reply Tue 23 Aug, 2005 04:10 am
Gargamel rocks.

Be back later...
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Thomas
 
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Reply Tue 23 Aug, 2005 04:41 am
nimh wrote:
This thread was initially mostly an expression of frustration re: A2K. Where did the punks go? Why am I surrounded by bloody hippies?

1) Because the punks eventually grew up to the point where they became indistinguishable from hippies. 2) Because, at least in terms of music, people got used to the sounds that sounded ultra-hard and way-outta-there in the 70s, so they now sound awfully tame to us. I became painfully aware of this two years ago, when I played one of my old "The Clash" records for my cousin, then 18 years old. My cousin is a nice, well-groomed girl who studies electrical engineering, dyes her hair blue every now and then, and likes a band called "Crazy Town", a crossover between Metal and Hip Hop. When she first heard The Clash's "London Calling", she just gave me a bemused smile and shrugged her shoulders, both palms up, as if to say: "What's the point? What about that hard stuff you promised me?"

I felt very old that moment.
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nimh
 
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Reply Tue 23 Aug, 2005 05:02 am
LOL. Oh yeah.

Its funny how much of the 1977 punk, if you listen to it now, seems more like a natural progression/evolution from good old rock'n'roll - a return to that good tradition after the boring hippie and concept album intermezzos - than like any shocker musical revolution. The Clash is a perfect example. Or The Vibrators, thats just rock 'n' roll really. Which is fine with me, as well. I love the return of that dirty rock 'n' roll sound in the Gore Gore Girls, John Spencer Blues Explosion, Billy Childish, Southern Culture on the Skids as well. Those sound more like the punk I liked than much of the 1980s hardcore did.

Doesnt hold true for everything tho. The way Siouxie screamed like, well, a banshee on those first Peel Sessions - or the girls of X-Ray Spex... And Never Mind the Bollocks still does sound totally different. You keep bumping against those comments by some literary or reviewer git who goes, "well of course we all voted Bollocks best album of the year at the time, but you cant imagine anyone actually still listening to it for fun ..." talk for youself, poser!
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Sturgis
 
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Reply Tue 23 Aug, 2005 05:07 am
hey man there's never enough hippies in the world.
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Sturgis
 
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Reply Tue 23 Aug, 2005 05:08 am
and I want my love beads back too.
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Thomas
 
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Reply Tue 23 Aug, 2005 05:38 am
nimh wrote:
Its funny how much of the 1977 punk, if you listen to it now, seems more like a natural progression/evolution from good old rock'n'roll - a return to that good tradition after the boring hippie and concept album intermezzos - than like any shocker musical revolution.

Well, in some cases it is a natural progression. For example, Patti Smith did sing some old standards from "The Who". Her version of "My generation"is on the CD version of her "Horses". It's very good, I prefer it to the original; but as much I hate to admit it, the rest of "Horses", which you would probably call 'a boring hippie album', has aged much better than her punky "my generation", which was not on the original LP and was added to the CD as an encore.

nimh wrote:
The way Siouxie screamed like, well, a banshee on those first Peel Sessions - or the girls of X-Ray Spex... And Never Mind the Bollocks still does sound totally different. You keep bumping against those comments by some literary or reviewer git who goes, "well of course we all voted Bollocks best album of the year at the time, but you cant imagine anyone actually still listening to it for fun ..." talk for youself, poser!

Oh, but of course you would hear it for fun ... such nice and friendly elevator music ... Twisted Evil
nimh
 
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Reply Tue 23 Aug, 2005 05:44 am
I love playing that LP. To snarl along with when I'm angry or give me a boost of raw energy when I can't find my footing.

Plus, great music to do the dishes by ;-)
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Thomas
 
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Reply Tue 23 Aug, 2005 05:49 am
Sturgis wrote:
and I want my love beads back too.

Sure, Sturgis -- but if you're one of the original hippies, won't you need a generous helping of Viagra to go with the love beads by now?
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Sturgis
 
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Reply Tue 23 Aug, 2005 05:58 am
That's okay Thomas I'll just look at your picture and that'll do it for me Shocked Confused :wink: .



Hey, where's everybody running to?
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Thomas
 
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Reply Tue 23 Aug, 2005 06:13 am
Sturgis wrote:
Hey, where's everybody running to?

Well, that's what happens when you show my picture around. Wink
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Thomas
 
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Reply Tue 23 Aug, 2005 06:41 am
nimh wrote:
Re: trying to recapture fleeting youth ... its worse than that. See, I was born in '71, so in the year Brit punk went big I was ... 6. I'm grasping back at the youth of the generation before me - how pathetic can you get! To when the yuppies hadnt fouled everything up, them and the hippies-turned-bobos..

Watch it, pal! It's the yuppies' adolescence you're leeching on here, as well as their first big-paying enterprise. (How dare you ignore punk was profitable!)
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jpinMilwaukee
 
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Reply Tue 23 Aug, 2005 07:48 am
Lash wrote:
Yeah. We need a ruling.

Debate:

Is there a difference in punks and goths, and if so, what is it?


Punk and Goth are totally different. They may look the same at times but the difference is all in the attitudes.

Punks are louder and more out going. Plus, they have more of a FUK U attitude and will tend ti get in your face.

Goths are quieter and more self-loathing... sometimes over-emotional Piss one off and they may get revenge but it will always be when you aren't looking and least expecting it.

I always got the feeling that punks were kids with nothing better to do and Goths were kids whose looks cried out "LOOK AT ME... I"M IN PAIN... I"M MISERABLE... SOMEBODY PAY ATTENTION TO ME!!!!" but never actually said a word.
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Gargamel
 
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Reply Tue 23 Aug, 2005 08:03 am
A very astute observation, that last part, JP.
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Tue 23 Aug, 2005 08:59 am
my age exempts me from the above catagories, are all we "beats" dead?
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jpinMilwaukee
 
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Reply Tue 23 Aug, 2005 09:07 am
the only way I like my beats is pickled... so yeah... dead and gone. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news Dys.
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Thomas
 
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Reply Tue 23 Aug, 2005 09:12 am
dyslexia wrote:
my age exempts me from the above catagories, are all we "beats" dead?

Well, if you ask Allen Ginsberg, its best minds certainly are. Wasn't yours one of them?

Quote:
I saw the best minds of my generation destroyed by madness, starving hysterical naked,

dragging themselves through the negro streets at dawn looking for an angry fix,

angelheaded hipsters burning for the ancient heavenly connection to the starry dynamo in the machinery of night,

who poverty and tatters and hollow-eyed and high sat up smoking in the supernatural darkness of cold-water flats floating across the tops of cities contemplating jazz,

and so forth.

Huh -- I just read the whole poem all the way through for the first time in my life. Who knew it's actually good?
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nimh
 
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Reply Tue 23 Aug, 2005 09:53 am
Me
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