Too many hippies not enough punks

oh. My favorite Brit punk band is Crass and the Damned. Put there so many I can't really say.Peni,G.B.H.,Poison girls. (I'm old)

back in the early 80's some of toronto's punks/skins used to hang out on younge street near a rock roll hair salon called the house of lords, there was this one girl that used to drive me wild, mostly shaved head, little lock in the front, petite (about 5 foot max, maybe 75 pounds, always wore mens tank top undershirts and girls school tartan skirts with doc martens, never had the nerve to talk to her but i worshipped her from a far

999, Buzzcocks, Sham 69, Vibrators, Clash, The Exploited's Punks not Dead, Slaughter & the Dogs, Sex Pistols, Siouxie's very first tracks, John Cooper Clark, Snivelling Shits, X-Ray Spex, Undertones, UK Subs, Adverts, Ruts, Members, The Jam (yeah why not), Stranglers, Slits, Richard Hell, The Ex, Toy Dolls, de Boegies and check out Sheena & the Rokkets' Omae Ga Oshi

ok, and I got a strong weak for Rancid, so shoot me.

no stiff little fingers?

Sure, they cool too

You forgot the Subhumans, Discharge, Moterhead & the Buisness

Screeching weasel, Circle Jerks, Misfits, Fear, 7 Seconds, Minor Threat, Fugazi, Dead kennedys, Superchuck, Sludgeworth (One of the best unheard of Punk bands ever), the Kinks, the Desendents, Operation Ivy (Even on their worst day they are better then Rancid could even dream to be and the only Ska band I really listen to), The Queers, Bad Religion, The Exploited, The Lillingtons, Naked Raygun (Way ahead of their time... I still say they would be huge if they were around today), Pegboy, Samiam... and I'm sure there are more.

I live in a neighborhood with a ton of kids around... for every basketball I see there must be ten kids on Skateboards going by. I love it. Keep The Revolution Alive!!!

Oh yeah Motorhead

THE TRAIN KEPT A ROLLIN, ALL NIGHT LONG

Is this a fashion thread, a music thread or a political thread?

It's a Habibi'stryin'torecapturefleetingyouth thread.

LOL! Hardly, Set...

This thread was initially mostly an expression of frustration re: A2K. Where did the punks go? Why am I surrounded by bloody hippies? (Either could be accused of just trying to recapture fleeting youth ...)

Then I realised it's true for the whole world outside as well. Especially in offices and organisations and stuff. Where's the people who just dont give a fukk? Too many hippies, not enough punks. Just a statement of fact. ;-)

So in short, Fbaezer: Yes, it is. ;-)

You just tried to piss on someone who doesn't give a euphemism in favour of someone who only appears to remind us it's her anniversary i.e.does give a euphemism.

Get consistent kid.Knock off making it up as you go along.Punks are consistent.

Spendius, are you drunk-posting?

Nope.What's the problem?

The CRAMPS, The Minutemen, The Lurkers, the Dead Boys, Rocket from the Tombs, THE STOOGES, MC5, the New York Dolls, X, Johnny Thunders, Fear, Rezillos...

Punks and hippies have become the same thing, except punks are less annoying and listen to better music.

Don't sleep with a punk girl, because she has a personality disorder, and that is 100% fact. Plus you'll get punched in the face and she'll smell worse than a hippie-chick. Not to mention that people who are over-the-top punk as f---, nine times out of ten, are boring and narcissistic.

You want an indie-chick who dyes her hair and smells like apples and works at a coffeeshop or bookstore and doesn't wear a belt so when she bends over you see her underwear.

That is all. Thank you.

Music: Clash is better than The Grateful Dead. And that's about it.

MC5 were no punks. They were revolutionaries, man!

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Fashion: hippies looked nice, punks tried not to.
Jipitecas (Mexican hippies) imitated the originals.
Punketos (Mexican punks) were far superior than the originals. Uglier and nastier looking, by fukking far.
(Have a glimpse of Los Mierdas Punks crashing a "tocada": they all live IN the dumps of the biggest city in the world; their leader has a rusty nail across his nasal block; Los Panchitos, and other gangs let them pass through to the front row; any freaking European Sex Pistol loving okupa would piss in his pants if he saw one Panchito, let alone Los Mierdas Punks, who know how to live amongst the sh¡t).

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Politics: Hippies tried to make a revolution, cultural or real, in Western countries.
Punks CELEBRATED the fact there would be no revolution in Western countries, and were key to the revolution in Eastern Europe.

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Cool!

I didn't know much about Mexican punks. I'd love to hear some of the music. I know that Mexico and Spain are two completely different places, but the only Spanish (language) punk I've seen live is Los Perros from Valencia, and those were some bad motherf-----s.

Hippies were a phenomenon of the 1960s and '70s. Are they still around somewhere? I haven't seen one in the USA in years and years. Well, except for some 60+ year olds who still wear their hair long and prefer torn blue jeans to docksiders. And I can't tell the difference between punks and goths.

Yeah. We need a ruling.

Debate:

Is there a difference in punks and goths, and if so, what is it?

I have a boy with hair like a cockateil on my couch right now. It is lavendar today. Previously, it has been red and black.

One of my daughter's friends has a hairdo that I can only describe as a half Flock of Seagulls and a spikey mohawk in the back.

He wears red eyeshadow and tight net black shirts. He brought my daughter home late from a concert and hugged me and told me he loved me, trying to get me not to fuss at daughter.

It took everything I could do not to laugh.

Anyway, this doesn't seem to be average punk behavior.

The goths have the anti-Bush shirts sold at concerts too (de rigueur for all concerts, it seems). They're just black (LOL). My daughter's little group don't use or even drink actually, but they are part of a larger group who do. There's also this Straight Edge group,...I think yuo've heard of them. Anyway, their main thing seems to be overt non-conformity, though they all laugh when I say they all dress in uniforms, listen to the same music and feel disturbed.

They are the most informed, artistic group of young people I've encountered locally. Unusually intelligent for their age--and I do think a thread of depression or other than-ness weaves through all of them. (I think it does with everyone, really, but they feel it and don't mind expressing it.)

But, the guys are all unemployed.

LOL!! My daughter has jettisoned her last two boyfriends because they didn't "have anything going on."

Mommy proud. LOL!!

This poster here was/is much more a jipiteca than a punketo (adding to nimh's apparent dismay), so I can tell little about Mexican punk groups.

Botellita de Jerez looked like punks, sounded a bit like punks, but were not real punketos. They were much more like First World punks. Nice kids, the bottomline. One of them was a cartoonist then, now a film director ("A Day Without a Mexican"). The others dwell in substandard journalism.

Botellita (or "Los Botellos") had a motto: "Naco es Chido" which is hard to translate, declared they played guacarock (a combination of guacamole and rock... or pukerock), had some great songs. One about El Santo, the wrestler. Other one "Tlalocman" about a Mexican superhero. Playing live, they tried to sound Aztec shells and always failed, then brought out empty bottles of Coca-Cola and... alas! a pure Aztec sound came out of them.

I guess La Maldita Vecindad was punketo too.
Several of those groups moved from punk rock to Mexican ska.

Finally, El Tri, the everlasting Mexican rock group.
Originally, they were called Three Souls in My Mind, and played in Avándaro (the Mexican Woodstock), during the jipiteca era. Then they Mexicanized their name and were heroes to the punketos... and they're still playing to the proletarian masses & making money.

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Punketos and darketos mix, but they're easily distinguishable. Punketos are naturally uglier. Darketos wear make-up, or look like it even if they don't.