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The Ballad of Twitter and that Billionaire Bumpkin, Elon Musk

 
 
Region Philbis
 
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Reply Thu 23 Jan, 2025 11:40 am
@Walter Hinteler,
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a Milwaukee meteorologist has been fired from her TV station after she criticized Elon Musk
that'll teach her not to stray from the five-day forecast...

/sarcasm
/disgust
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 23 Jan, 2025 11:54 am
@hingehead,
hingehead wrote:
Bluesky running warm this morning
The police initially told the Tagesspiegel newspaper that the action had not taken place and that the image was a ‘fake’. According to the police, the security guards at the Tesla plant had not noticed any projection.
On Thursday, they partially backed away from this account. When asked by SPIEGEL, a spokesperson for the Brandenburg police said: ‘Whether the projection actually took place in this way is part of this investigation. At the moment, we cannot rule it out.’

According to the Centre for Political Beauty (they did the projection together with the British group ‘Led by Donkeys’), the projection lasted about an hour and a half.
The group told SPIEGEL that they could not imagine that the security guards would monitor the side of the factory, on which the Tesla logo shines in large letters, so poorly.

The police's state security department is now investigating the initial suspicion of ‘using symbols of unconstitutional organisations’ - because it is suspected that a Hitler salute was projected onto the factory wall in a publicly visible manner.


Translated with DeepL.com (free version)
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glitterbag
 
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Reply Fri 24 Jan, 2025 12:03 am
@Region Philbis,
Probably part of the Sinclair regime.
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hightor
 
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Reply Fri 24 Jan, 2025 08:46 am
Elon Has Appointed Himself King of the World

After helping Trump win the election, the world’s richest man is turning his attention to Europe.

Ali Breland wrote:
Like any good entrepreneur who found early success in one market, Elon Musk is now starting to expand to others. Yesterday, Musk—the entrepreneur turned Donald Trump megadonor—hosted a livestream on X with Alice Weidel, the leader of Germany’s far-right political party, Alternative für Deutschland, or AfD.

“Only the AfD can save Germany, end of story,” Musk said during the 70-minute conversation, endorsing the party ahead of the country’s elections next month. This is not the first time Musk has publicly thrown his support behind the AfD. At the end of last month, he wrote an op-ed in a German newspaper endorsing the aggressively nativist party, whose members and staff have well-documented ties to neo-Nazis and other extremist groups. (The party, for its part, has expelled some politicians and staff over suspected links to such groups, though others still remain).

Musk has spent recent days hyper-focused on replicating the influence campaign he has waged on U.S. politics. In addition to backing the AfD, he has injected himself into British politics, accusing Prime Minister Keir Starmer, the leader of the United Kingdom’s Labour Party, of enabling child sex abuse by failing to address grooming gangs as a previous head of England and Wales’s Crown Prosecution Services, and calling for his ouster. (Starmer has defended his record, noting that he reopened the cases and was the first to prosecute the perpetrators.) Musk posted a poll on Monday asking X users whether “America should liberate the people of Britain from their tyrannical government.” Musk has also started posting in support of Tommy Robinson, an Islamaphobic far-right political activist in the U.K. who is currently in prison for repeatedly breaching court orders related to a libel case he lost; Robinson falsely claimed in Facebook videos that a Syrian refugee had “violently attack[ed] young English girls in his school.”

After Nigel Farage, who leads the U.K.’s far-right Reform Party, said that he disagreed with Musk about Robinson, Musk posted: “The Reform Party needs a new leader. Farage doesn’t have what it takes.” As Musk has waged this pressure campaign, he has incessantly posted in support of the far right in Europe and their current causes célèbres. On Wednesday, he suggested that there were “Sharia Law courts” in the United Kingdom, that “UK politicians are selling your daughters for votes,” and that “Irish citizens get longer sentences than illegal immigrants. That’s messed up.”

Despite Musk’s ability to become a major political figure in the United States, it’s not clear whether his pressure campaign in Europe will work. Musk’s efforts to influence European politics are hampered by campaign regulations that curb the role of money in politics. In addition to his online campaign during the U.S. presidential election, he donated more than $250 million to help Trump, in part funding ads that ran in swing states. But in Germany, radio and TV ads can air only within a month of the election. In the U.K., national campaign spending in the 365 days prior to an election is capped at about $40 million per party. The perspective of an avaricious billionaire may not mean the same thing in Europe that it does in the U.S.: A YouGov poll in November showed that just 18 percent of people in the U.K. view Musk favorably, down from 23 percent in 2022, after he initiated his purchase of Twitter. In the U.S., by contrast, more than a third of Americans have a favorable view of Musk.

Some European leaders, perhaps sensing that their constituents share a dim view of Musk, have pushed back. Starmer has accused him of spreading “lies and misformation.” Even officials in European countries who haven’t been targeted are speaking out. French President Emmanuel Macron, who recently welcomed Musk to the reopening of Paris’s Notre Dame cathedral, accused him of “supporting a new international reactionary movement and intervening directly in elections.”

But even if Musk falls short of his goals of propelling AfD to power in Germany and ousting Starmer as prime minister, he’ll likely still have made some gains for the European far right. A YouGov poll from earlier this month showed the AfD polling at 21 percent, behind only the mainstream center-right party. The party has gained two points since the beginning of last month, suggesting that Musk’s campaign is at least not stifling the party. Even though the AfD is a formal party with considerable support, it’s still considered taboo in much of Germany. Every other party has agreed not to work with the AfD, effectively ostracizing it. Musk’s endorsement of the AfD “is a problem,” Miro Dittrich, a co-CEO of CeMAS, a Berlin-based nonprofit that tracks the far right, told me. “It’s seen as legitimizing them.” During the conversation with Weidel, Musk tried to sanitize and downplay the Afd’s far-right tendencies and neo-Nazi ties by accusing the media of misportraying the party, and giving Weidel space to do the same: Adolf Hiter “wasn’t a conservative; he wasn’t a libertarian,” she told Musk. “He was a communist, socialist guy, so full stop, no more comment on that, and we are exactly the opposite.” (Hitler, of course, was an anti-communist, anti-Semitic dictator.)

Musk doesn’t need to make endorsements or post aggressively to exert his influence over Europe. Even before he attached himself to the Trump campaign, Musk gained significant leverage over governments through Starlink, his satellite-internet service. In 2022, Musk reportedly made the decision to not provide Starlink service to Ukraine while it was launching an attack on Russian forces in Crimea, after speaking with the Russian ambassador to the United States. In September, he used the company to partially circumvent a temporary ban on X in Brazil, by refusing to block the website for Starlink customers in the country.

Unless something truly intractable stands between Musk and a goal, he will relentlessly go for it, no matter how trivial or ill-advised it may be, often no matter the cost to those around him. That pattern is probably how Musk’s political ambitions will play out. Unless he gets bored, governments across the world will be forced to at least listen to his whims—especially as European leaders contend with the possibility of retaliation from the president of the United States. Perhaps a fallout between Trump and Musk is coming. Trump has reportedly started complaining about how much Musk is hanging out in Mar-a-Lago, where he pays $2,000 a night to stay at a villa to regularly dine with Trump. Still, even without the president-elect, he has the wealth and connections to exert his will on politics worldwide. Musk is here for as long as he wants to be.

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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sat 25 Jan, 2025 11:38 am
@hightor,
Four weeks before the German parliamentary elections, tech billionaire Elon Musk has once again joined the German election campaign on a big stage and campaigned for the AfD. At the party's official campaign kick-off in Halle (Saale), the Trump adviser and Tesla boss was switched on live from the USA at the beginning of party leader Alice Weidel's speech.

In a video message, Musk reaffirmed his support for the AfD party. ‘It is very important that people in Germany are proud to be German,’ said Musk via livestream. ‘German culture’ goes back “thousands of years”. Even the Roman Emperor Julius Caesar was ‘impressed’ by the fighting spirit of the Germanic tribes, Musk continued.

‘Fight for a great future for Germany,’ said Musk to the cheers of around 4,500 AfD supporters in the exhibition hall. The entrepreneur lamented that there was ‘too much focus on past guilt’ and that this had to be left behind. Children should not be guilty for the sins of their great-grandparents, he said and called for optimism.

The AfD has Musk's full support and - he believes - also the support of the Trump government. The current German government is obviously not interested in ‘the health and well-being of the German people’. Instead, ‘the government is aggressively suppressing freedom of expression’. The AfD must therefore ‘fight, fight, fight’, especially for ‘more self-determination for Germany and for the countries in Europe and less from Brussels’.

Translation of a SPIEGEL report
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Region Philbis
 
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Reply Sun 26 Jan, 2025 09:57 am

https://i.ibb.co/DLPn4P3/Screenshot-20250126-094146-Facebook.jpg
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hingehead
 
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Reply Mon 27 Jan, 2025 04:22 pm
Judgement Dave @Judgement_Dave
22h

Q: How do you make a Nazi Cross?

A: Stop buying his electric cars.
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hingehead
 
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Reply Mon 27 Jan, 2025 04:47 pm
Parody Keir Starmer @Parody_PM·
7h

A narcissist, an idiot and a Nazi walk into a bar. The barman says "Good evening Mr Musk".
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Tue 28 Jan, 2025 07:27 am
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Fears for ‘security of Jews worldwide’ in wake of Elon Musk AfD speech
Top US Jewish advocate Halie Soifer calls Trump adviser’s address to far-right Germany rally ‘incredibly dangerous’

Elon Musk’s remarks to a German far-right party that Germans should not focus on their country’s Nazi past should prompt “deep concern” about “the security of American Jews” and “of Jews worldwide”, a leading US Jewish advocate has told the Guardian.

“Speaking as a deeply concerned American Jew,” said Halie Soifer, chief executive of the Jewish Democratic Council of America (JDCA), “I am deeply concerned about the security of American Jews, of Jews worldwide, given our president’s clear alignment with dangerous rightwing extremists.”

Musk, the owner of Tesla, SpaceX and X and the world’s richest person, donated hundreds of millions of dollars to Donald Trump’s campaign and is now a close adviser with an office in the White House complex.

In a video address to the Alternative für Deutschland (AfD) party on Friday, Musk said it was “good to be proud of German culture, German values, and not to lose that in some sort of multiculturalism that dilutes everything”; said “children should not be guilty of the sins of their parents, let alone their great-grandparents”; and said there was “too much focus on past guilt, and we need to move beyond that”.

He also gave two fascist-style salutes last week, during a speech at Trump’s inauguration.

Soifer’s response comes after world leaders marked the 80th anniversary of the liberation of the Nazi death camp at Auschwitz, in Poland.

Given her leadership of the JDCA, and a résumé that includes stints advising Kamala Harris and Democratic senators and working on Barack Obama’s first presidential campaign, Soifer said she knew she “may be viewed as partisan”.

But she said: “This administration is clearly attempting to remake the world order in its image. And Elon addressing the AfD, encouraging the AfD, clearly aligning with the AfD is also a form of election interference, in addition to being incredibly dangerous, given the extreme views of many of its members.

“It is not the norm for a senior adviser to the US president to align with a [foreign] political party in advance of elections” next month.

Amid outcry over his salutes and his comments to the AfD, Musk has denied far-right sympathies while gleefully trolling his critics. On Sunday, he pinned to his X account a Latin motto – “Nemo me impune lacessit”, or “No one provokes me with impunity” – which Musk attributed to Sulla, a Roman dictator, but which is actually the national motto of Scotland.

Soifer said: “The salute, the message to the AfD, the fact that he is willing to joke about the criticism he is getting, it all demonstrates that [those around Trump] are unwilling to recognize how dangerous their words and actions are.

“They don’t deserve the benefit of the doubt when it comes to this alignment. It has been a steady stream of signaling to rightwing extremists that they have an ally now in the White House.”

On his first day back in office, Trump pardoned more than 1,500 people convicted over the Capitol attack of 6 January 2021. He has signed executive orders instituting hardline immigration policies including plans for mass deportations.

Soifer said it was imperative opponents of Trump and Musk continue to condemn extremist behavior and language, because “words and signaling have dangerous consequences and Trump and his allies, including Elon Musk, are giving a green light to extremists.

“It’s important that that American voters, especially those who may have supported Donald Trump, open their eyes and see what’s right in front of them. He said he would be a dictator on day one, and for once he is making good on his promise.”

On Monday evening, Soifer noted that Trump had then not issued a statement marking Holocaust Remembrance Day, a step he took each year in his first term, though in 2017 he caused controversy when his statement did not mention Jewish people.

“Donald Trump is taking Elon’s advice to ‘move beyond’ the Holocaust,” Soifer said in a post on social media. “It’s (the end of) Holocaust Remembrance Day and Trump hasn’t said a word about it. But he did pardon the ‘Camp Auschwitz’ insurrectionist just in time for the 80th anniversary of the liberation of Auschwitz.”

That was a reference to Robert Keith Packer, now 59, who was sentenced to 75 days in prison for his part in the Capitol attack, during which he was photographed wearing a hoodie with “Camp Auschwitz” printed on the front.

Trump sent a delegation to Auschwitz on Monday, led by Steve Witkoff, the US special envoy to the Middle East, and Howard Lutnick, Trump’s nominee for secretary of commerce.

The White House eventually issued a “presidential action”, marking Holocaust Remembrance Day as a “National Day of Remembrance” but released after 10pm ET.


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jan/28/elon-musk-germany-afd-rally<br />

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izzythepush
 
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Reply Thu 30 Jan, 2025 07:32 pm
None of the big news networks are carrying this, but there's plenty of anecdotal evidence of teslas being vandalised.

This is a link to a closed thread on the tesla owners forum.

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Tesla vandalized again....


https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/tesla-vandalized-again.332147/

From the same thread.

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Musk has turned into a right wing bigot fascist since buying Twitter (maybe he always was, but being unaccountable has just revealed his true nature)
Tesla is indelibly linked to him
Ipso facto someone owning / driving one of his company's cars either buys into his bigotry or doesn't care enough about what he says and does to eschew the brand
Owning a Tesla doesn't mean you buy into everything he says, but I can easily see why people make the connection. No other car company really has a figurehead that is so closely linked to the brand.

Someone scratching a swastike into your car - that's as obvious a "cause and effect" thing as there is really.

That said it sucks that this has happened to you twice. It's something I have an elevated fear of when leaving my car unattended nowadays.
engineer
 
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Reply Fri 31 Jan, 2025 08:06 am
@izzythepush,
I've seen it several places. More interesting are the things wrong with the Cybertruck. NY parking garages won't allow them. Driving in snow causes cybertruck headlights to be blocked. Cybertruck tow hitch is rated to carry the same vertical load as the Model Y hitch—160 lb or two bicycles.

The CT is Musk's baby. He made Tesla abandon their plans and put everything on it then rolled it out before it was ready. Tesla just released terrible Q4 numbers and it's all directly attributable to Musk. Musk is pushing robotaxis and electric storage saying Tesla is not a car company anymore. That's probably for the best since car companies are generally more profitable.
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hightor
 
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Reply Fri 31 Jan, 2025 01:22 pm
In all the discussions I've had with people about cars – in school, at parties, with mechanics – the desire for self-driving vehicles never came up. Not once. Ever. I don't understand why it's become some sort of imperative. Who's clamoring for this technology?
Region Philbis
 
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Reply Fri 31 Jan, 2025 01:52 pm
@hightor,

hopefully by 2084 they will have perfected Johnny Cab© technology...

https://i.ibb.co/LDRLpTcx/capture.jpg
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engineer
 
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Reply Fri 31 Jan, 2025 02:03 pm
@hightor,
As much as Musk sucks as a person, he is still a top-notch visionary. He's a terrible strategist, tactician and seems to lack a lot as a technologist, but he's a visionary. The thing about visionaries is that they see the value when no one is clamoring for it. True self driving would revolutionize shipping and transportation. Imagine how cheap you could move goods if you could put them on an electric truck that drove itself from charging station to charging station without breaks and arrive on its own. Think of all the city congestion that would just disappear when all the cars are well behaved. Imagine how easy a ten-hour drive would be if it was more like a train ride where you sat down and did work or leisure while someone else drove you to your destination. I drive two hours to the state capital on occasion over a stretch of interstate that is pretty much all forest. I would love to put my car on autopilot and settle in with a good book or internet game.

Unfortunately, people tend to think of visionaries as the "smartest people in the room". Usually, it's the technologists who are that. It's one thing to envision a reusable rocket that comes down in a perfect touchdown, it's another to figure out how to make that happen. It seems Musk has bought into his own hype and believes in his brilliance instead of his neuro-diversity. He has undercut his technologists multiple times and now Tesla is falling behind his competitors in self driving (as well as electric cars in general).
hightor
 
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Reply Fri 31 Jan, 2025 02:34 pm
@engineer,
I could see some possible use for the technology in mass transit, which is much more efficient than single passenger vehicles.

But there are over 8 million truckers in the USA, not including self-employed, nearly 400,000 livery drivers, shuttle drivers, taxi drivers, and chauffeurs, and maybe 200,000 bus drivers. Trucking is one of the last relatively high-paying jobs for people without degrees. So what happens when these people start being replaced with self-driving technology?

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As much as Musk sucks as a person, he is still a top-notch visionary.

I'm not convinced – of the visionary part. I think the only reason for his prominence is his (inherited) wealth, through which he can hire the people necessary to design and build stuff and which he can use to settle lawsuits and pay significant fines.
hingehead
 
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Reply Sat 1 Feb, 2025 02:58 am
@hightor,
I think you're stuck in a paradigm that's hung around for a century. The centrality of owning your own vehicle.

When in economic terms it's kind of insane when you consider cost vs utilisation. What percentage of your day do you use your car? Assuming you're not a cab driver or a trucker best (worst?) case scenario is like 20% of the time. So arguably in a technocratic utopia we have 5 times as many cars as we need.

Note I'm not proselytising for this just pointing out the reasoning.

Consider people who can't or shouldn't drive. Registration costs, insurance costs fuel costs, parking costs, the investment in buying and maintaining a vehicle.

IF self driving was perfected and getting your personal transport from your door to destination was as simple or simpler than getting an uber it's not hard to see traffic and travel times massively improved (just think of traffic lights and cars being absolutely insync with each other).

Oh - and the joy of not having to listen to the cab/uber driver and their radio station.
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hingehead
 
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Reply Sat 1 Feb, 2025 03:03 am
@hightor,
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So what happens when these people start being replaced with self-driving technology?


The same thing that happened to coopers, blacksmiths et al. Society has never seemed to give much of a **** about about displaced workers. To me self driving vehicles are small change compared to AI.
hightor
 
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Reply Sat 1 Feb, 2025 03:35 am
@hingehead,
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Society has never seemed to give much of a **** about about displaced workers.

That's true.
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To me self driving vehicles are small change compared to AI.
That's true as well. It's the main reason workers displaced by self-driving technology will find it even harder than the coopers and blacksmiths to find meaningful employment. I'd really like to see a little more concern on the part of the people designing our future. Something tells me that won't be happening.
hingehead
 
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Reply Sat 1 Feb, 2025 04:38 am
@hightor,
Yep. I've been reading about the Luddites. Talk about bad press. They weren't fighting against technology they were fighting against being pushed into poverty.

I find myself conflicted. Because frankly I don't have the same sense of sympathy with coal miners, lumberjacks and oil drillers losing their livelihoods (I have some sympathy but not as much).

In my own industry I've seen I've seen the changes automation, outsourcing and SaaS have bought. When I started at my current employer there were 75 staff. Now there are 39. Those gone are at all levels (from Director down to effectively photocopying) and we deliver a service that would have amazed us back then. Not without a fair bit of fraying of those of us who still here.

The other conflict I have is that new tech affects are notoriously difficult to predict. When the Wright Brothers got in the air at Kittyhawk no-one was predicting hijacking.

How much can you prepare a workforce (or a society) for a major change. Or do you just throw it out there and watch chaotic adaptive strategies develop (human history is littered with them) and hope your social safety nets are sturdy enough to prevent Dickensian dystopias? Frankly I'd rather be in Scandinavia than the US in that situation. Where I am is somewhere in between.

hightor
 
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Reply Sat 1 Feb, 2025 06:14 am
@hingehead,
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Because frankly I don't have the same sense of sympathy with coal miners, lumberjacks and oil drillers losing their livelihoods...


When Hillary Clinton ran for president she was heavily criticized for saying that they were going to put a lot of coal miners out of work. What was left out was that she also promised not to forget those people and had plans for retraining them for new job skills.
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