Biblical Proof

squinney -- I'm not sure I'd be that impressed with Noah's ark. An ark is an ark is an ark. If they found the remains of something like that on, say, the side of Mount Ararat in Turkey, all it would prove is that arks, such as the one described in Genesis, were, indeed commonly built in those days. How would they even prove it was Noah's?

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squinney -- I'm not sure I'd be that impressed with Noah's ark. An ark is an ark is an ark. If they found the remains of something like that on, say, the side of Mount Ararat in Turkey, all it would prove is that arks, such as the one described in Genesis, were, indeed commonly built in those days. How would they even prove it was Noah's?

Well, since the exact measurements of Noah's ark are recorded in the Bible, do you suppose if they found it matching those measurements you might reconsider your position?

For all I know, Momma, the measurements, in cubits, given in Genesis were the standard measures to which vessels of that remote period were constructed.

My real problem with all this stuff is that there seems to be a compulsive need for the Biblical literalists to prove something. And, as Frank has pointed out, that "proof" often takes the form of finding some artifact which has nothing whatever to do with religion. I don't doubt that a good deal of the content of the Bible is historically accurate (more or less, given that's it's told from a particular viewpoint). But finding a well that's mentioned in the New Testament in no way proves that a miracle was performed at that site. Try to bring that kind of "evidence" into a court of law and see how far you get.

As for the rest, my Christian beliefs are based on faith, therefore, I don't feel the need for proof.

Wolf,

That in no way whatsoever describes how I feel. I am not superior in any way to any one nor do I feel superior in any way.

Is faith and belief good grounds for thinking that something is true or do we need something else?

You missed the point.

In no way did I ever outright claim or intend to claim that you felt superior because of your belief. I asked whether faith and belief are good grounds for thinking something is true.

After all, in the comic, Millie sees some money and she believes it to be hers, when it clearly is not. Why? Faith. She merely had faith and believed it to be true and the only justification she had was belief and faith. Was it true? Of course not.

So I therefore propose that faith and belief is not enough to say that something is true, and that you do need more than faith and belief.