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I believe when we die, we stay perfectly still in the moment of death itself, just for a few seconds. Then we wake in a strangely familiar peace. Not awake,as such, but aware. Aware of our loved ones and aware of death. I also believe, after due time, we awake fully in a new body and a new life, reborn to the earth. I am an extremely strong believer of reincarnation. Is there anyone else out there who shares my views?

I really don't know. I guess we all find out when we die.

As of now, I do believe in reincarnation, but in a very primal sense. When I die, my flesh and bones will be eaten by worms and bugs, maybe wolves or fire....and I will be reincarnated as water, soil, maybe roses, maybe dog feces, maybe I'll be a weed: actually, I think I'll be all of this and more. What I think of as me now will die: the question of reincarnation as I know it will be irrelevent.
I just find it comforting to think that my blood will become roses:)

flushd- What you have so poetically stated, is the first law of thermodynamics. I heartily agree with you!




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservation_of_energy

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Here is what Paul said to the Church members at Corinth (A Greek City):

The Resurrection of the Dead

12But if it is preached that Christ has been raised from the dead, how can some of you say that there is no resurrection of the dead? 13If there is no resurrection of the dead, then not even Christ has been raised. 14And if Christ has not been raised, our preaching is useless and so is your faith. 15More than that, we are then found to be false witnesses about God, for we have testified about God that he raised Christ from the dead. But he did not raise him if in fact the dead are not raised. 16For if the dead are not raised, then Christ has not been raised either. 17And if Christ has not been raised, your faith is futile; you are still in your sins. 18Then those also who have fallen asleep in Christ are lost. 19If only for this life we have hope in Christ, we are to be pitied more than all men.

20But Christ has indeed been raised from the dead, the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep. 21For since death came through a man, the resurrection of the dead comes also through a man. 22For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive. 23But each in his own turn: Christ, the firstfruits; then, when he comes, those who belong to him. 24Then the end will come, when he hands over the kingdom to God the Father after he has destroyed all dominion, authority and power. 25For he must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet. 26The last enemy to be destroyed is death. 27For he "has put everything under his feet."[c] Now when it says that "everything" has been put under him, it is clear that this does not include God himself, who put everything under Christ. 28When he has done this, then the Son himself will be made subject to him who put everything under him, so that God may be all in all.

29Now if there is no resurrection, what will those do who are baptized for the dead? If the dead are not raised at all, why are people baptized for them? 30And as for us, why do we endanger ourselves every hour? 31I die every day?-I mean that, brothers?-just as surely as I glory over you in Christ Jesus our Lord. 32If I fought wild beasts in Ephesus for merely human reasons, what have I gained? If the dead are not raised,
"Let us eat and drink,
for tomorrow we die."[d] 33Do not be misled: "Bad company corrupts good character." 34Come back to your senses as you ought, and stop sinning; for there are some who are ignorant of God?-I say this to your shame.

The Resurrection Body
35But someone may ask, "How are the dead raised? With what kind of body will they come?" 36How foolish! What you sow does not come to life unless it dies. 37When you sow, you do not plant the body that will be, but just a seed, perhaps of wheat or of something else. 38But God gives it a body as he has determined, and to each kind of seed he gives its own body. 39All flesh is not the same: Men have one kind of flesh, animals have another, birds another and fish another. 40There are also heavenly bodies and there are earthly bodies; but the splendor of the heavenly bodies is one kind, and the splendor of the earthly bodies is another. 41The sun has one kind of splendor, the moon another and the stars another; and star differs from star in splendor.

42So will it be with the resurrection of the dead. The body that is sown is perishable, it is raised imperishable; 43it is sown in dishonor, it is raised in glory; it is sown in weakness, it is raised in power; 44it is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body.
If there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body. 45So it is written: "The first man Adam became a living being"[e]; the last Adam, a life-giving spirit. 46The spiritual did not come first, but the natural, and after that the spiritual. 47The first man was of the dust of the earth, the second man from heaven. 48As was the earthly man, so are those who are of the earth; and as is the man from heaven, so also are those who are of heaven. 49And just as we have borne the likeness of the earthly man, so shall we[f] bear the likeness of the man from heaven.

50I declare to you, brothers, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable. 51Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed?- 52in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed. 53For the perishable must clothe itself with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality. 54When the perishable has been clothed with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality, then the saying that is written will come true: "Death has been swallowed up in victory."[g]
55"Where, O death, is your victory?
Where, O death, is your sting?"[h] 56The sting of death is sin, and the power of sin is the law. 57But thanks be to God! He gives us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.

58Therefore, my dear brothers, stand firm. Let nothing move you. Always give yourselves fully to the work of the Lord, because you know that your labor in the Lord is not in vain.

1 Corinthians 15: 12-58

What is your view?

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We are stardust
We are golden
We are billion year old carbon
Joni Mitchell

Compared to the great vastness of the cosmos, the ocean of deep time, my individual existence is a blip, a bubble in the foam on the surface of a flowing river. I am a momentary arrangement of atoms and molecules - an arrangement that lives and moves, to be sure, an arrangement that thinks, laughs, appreciates beauty, dreams, and loves - but a mere arrangement nonetheless, a transient state, an ephemeral gathering. Soon the blip will go out, the bubble will pop, the arrangement will dissolve, molecular bonds released by entropy. My consciousness will cease. But the molecules that once were me will still exist. The atoms that made up my body - iron, carbon, oxygen, nitrogen, all the heavy elements forged in the crucibles of dying stars - will remain. Liberated from their temporary homes, they will rejoin the rest of the planet, taking new shapes, finding new arrangements, becoming part of other life. I will, in a sense, become merged with everything.
I will be the momentary sparkle of sunlight on the surface of a flowing mountain stream. I will be high in the stratosphere, near that ineffable boundary where life-giving blue fades to violet and black. I will be subducted into the planet's core and join the three hundred million-year cycle of the continental plates. I will be the intense red and yellow of a tree's leaves in autumn, the flash and swoop of a dragonfly's glittering wings, the sleek white bolt of a deer's tail, the brown feathers of a soaring hawk, the silver scales of a leaping fish. I will be in each drop of rain in a storm, each wave in the ocean, each breath of a newborn child. And billions of years from now, when our sun swells and blasts the Earth's atmosphere away, I will be there, streaming away from the charred remnant of the planet into space, to rejoin the stars that gave my atoms birth. In the fullness of time, I will become distributed throughout the entire cosmos. And perhaps some day, innumerable eons from now, on the warm, sandy shore of some inconceivably distant young planet, a molecule that once was part of me will take part in a series of chemical reactions that may ultimately lead to new life - life that will in time leave its primordial sea, climb up onto the beach, and look up at the sky and wonder where it came from.
And the cycle will begin again.

I wish I had written this, but alas, I did not.
http://www.ebonmusings.org/atheism/stardust.html

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in answer to this Q. =Yes

Dont ask me what, because, I dont know.

The bible's view is no:

No, I do not think that there is life after physical death. Everything we know about the brain and consciousness indicates that the destruction of any part of the physical brain (whether due to drugs, disease, defects, or trauma) affects our experience of consciousness. Once the brain has been deprived of oxygen for more than a few minutes, it is no longer possible for consciousness to return even if the body is kept alive.

At the very least, consciousness requires some kind of patterned energy. There must be some kind of physical system to keep this energy from immediately dispersing, collect sensory data, process it, store and retrieve memories, and use it to create coherent patterns of thought. In addition, you will need biochemical processes if you want to feel emotions.

How, then, do you suppose that your alleged spirit can exist after the physical brain that produced the coherent brain waves that are the hallmark of awareness, is nothing but rotten meat?

Sorry, real life et al, but the Bible is not a reliable guide to anything.

Except that it agrees with you, contrary to what most people think. Maybe you just don't know what it really says.

Certainly the conscious mind is dependent upon the body to be able to communicate with others around him. But you have in no way proved that the conscious mind ceases to exist without the body.

A slightly different subject but some interesting perspectives from those who have been "unconscious" :

Man Awakes After 19 Years in Coma http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/07/09/health/main562293.shtml

Coma Woman Regains Speech , Memory http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/02/12/earlyshow/main673707.shtml

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We will all find out someday.

THE BIBLE CLEARLY STATES THAT FOR DUST WE TO DUST WE WILL RETURN. AND JESUS SAID THAT THERE IS NO WORK NO THOUGHTS OR NO MEMORIES IN THE GRAVE OR SHEOL. FOR THE CHOSEN FEW BY GOD TO GO TO HEAVEN THEY GO RIGHT AWAY LIKE THE APOSTILS, AND THE REST OF THE 144000 CHOSEN PEOPLE IN THE BOOK OF REVELATIONS THE REST OF US WILL WAIT IN OUR GRAVES FOR A RESURRECTION OF LIFE OR JUDGMENT. SO WHEN WE DIE WE ARE LIKE JESUS SAID WE ARE THINKING OF NOTHING IT IS LIKE WE ARE SLEEPING, NO THOUGHTS , NO DREAMS, NO WHITE CLOUDS IN HEAVEN.

...oh maaaaaaaaan!
please dont yell at us, we are not blind!

Hey Kiwi!

I don't think he means to yell. After he made this post, he posted somewhere else where it was pointed out that is what all caps meant. He just didn't know.

Good seeing you!

We have to assume that "this is it." We have to make the best of it here, and that doesn't mean that we should strive to be "king of the dung heap." It means living in harmony with other people and nature. It means perceiving beauty even in the least likely places. It means seeing past personal egos. It means being so in love with life that our obsession with the future dissolves.

It is the great unknown for a reason. The reason being the unending joy I get from hearing the varying views, opinions, thoughts, beliefs and need to believe in things that may or may not be true and may or may not happen. It is what makes human beings so wonderfully engaging, keen to learn, teach, experience, wonder, discuss, create. Without which, the world would not be the diverse and interesting place it is.

Well, it all depends on whether or not we have a soul. Whether or not we're more than hormones conveniently arranged so that we believe that we have emotions. If there is something more to us than molecules, then there's probably an afterlife. I'm sorta leaning towards the belief that we're all psychopaths, though; that we're nothing more than chemicals.