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Putin's War Part 2.

 
 
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 3 May, 2022 12:31 am
Pope Francis is planning a trip to Russia's ruler Vladimir Putin. He had asked for a meeting with the Kremlin leader in Moscow to try to end the war in Ukraine. But there was no answer yet, he said in an interview with the Italian newspaper "Corriere della Sera".

He also said Patriarch Kirill of the Russian Orthodox Church, who supported the war against Ukraine, should "not be Putin's acolyte".

Source (in Italian)
engineer
 
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Reply Tue 3 May, 2022 06:58 am
Russian troops loot farm equipment from a John Deere dealer in Ukraine only to find out they've been disabled remotely. What strikes me most about this is this can't be done by a couple of bad actors. You need some serious logistics to move tractors 700 miles. This was obviously done by the military.

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Russian troops in the occupied city of Melitopol have stolen all the equipment from a farm equipment dealership -- and shipped it to Chechnya, according to a Ukrainian businessman in the area.

But after a journey of more than 700 miles, the thieves were unable to use any of the equipment -- because it had been locked remotely.
Over the past few weeks there's been a growing number of reports of Russian troops stealing farm equipment, grain and even building materials - beyond widespread looting of residences. But the removal of valuable agricultural equipment from a John Deere dealership in Melitopol speaks to an increasingly organized operation, one that even uses Russian military transport as part of the heist.
CNN has learned that the equipment was removed from an Agrotek dealership in Melitopol, which has been occupied by Russian forces since early March. Altogether it's valued at nearly $5 million. The combine harvesters alone are worth $300,000 each.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 3 May, 2022 07:22 am
@engineer,
According to Ukrainian sources, Moscow's troops have begun storming the steelworks in Mariupol - Russia confirms the shelling.
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engineer
 
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Reply Tue 3 May, 2022 08:38 am
Biden is again rolling out Russia's plans ahead of time, this time noting that Russia is planning on announcing the annexation of the region of Ukraine that stretches from the Donetsk to Crimea. Since Ukraine has said they will never agree to a peace deal that includes giving up territory, this war will be going on for a while.
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engineer
 
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Reply Tue 3 May, 2022 09:28 am
The Russians Are Losing The Naval War Off Ukraine—To An Enemy With No Warships

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Ukraine’s navy, which after scuttling its flagship no longer has a single large vessel, continues to chip away at Russia’s own naval power in the Black Sea. With a big assist from Ukraine’s army, of course.

On Monday, a TB-2 armed drone apparently belonging to the Ukrainian sea service struck two Russian patrol boats with laser-guided missiles, heavily damaging if not destroying both boats.

Add the two 55-foot, gun-armed Raptor-class vessels to the growing list of Russian boats and ships the Ukrainians have sunk or so heavily damaged that they’re no longer relevant to the current conflict.

Moscow’s naval losses of course include the 612-foot missile cruiser Moskva, holed by two Ukrainian navy Neptune coastal anti-ship missiles on April 13. Moskva was the flagship of the Black Sea Fleet with its, at the time, two dozen or so major warships.

Three weeks earlier on March 24, an Alligator-class landing ship belonging to the Black Sea Fleet’s reinforced amphibious flotilla burst into flames while pier-side in Russian-occupied Berdyansk in southern Ukraine. It seems an accurate hit by a Ukrainian army Tochka ballistic missile started the chain reaction.

Down three amphibs as well as Moskva with its long-range air-defense missiles, the Black Sea Fleet no longer can concentrate a large landing force nor protect it from air and missile attack. That means the Russians almost certainly can’t open a littoral front along Ukraine’s western coastline in order to stage an assault on the strategic port of Odessa, Ukraine’s main gateway to the sea.

Moskva, Saratov and the other landing ships are the most significant naval casualties on the Russian side, but they’re not the only ones. On or before March 22, Ukrainian army troops in Mariupol—an historic port on the Sea of Azov, adjacent to the Black Sea—struck a Raptor with at least one Konkurs anti-tank missile as the boat patrolled close to shore.

That makes two big Russian ships sunk plus two damaged, as well as three patrol boats knocked out if not totally destroyed. This out of a regional fleet that, before the war, included just seven large surface combatants—frigates and large corvettes plus Moskva—in addition to a half-dozen landing ships, six or seven Raptors and six or so diesel-electric submarines.

Bear in mind, Turkey controls the Bosphorous Strait, the only waterway connecting the Sea of Azov and Black Sea to the Mediterranean Sea and thus the open ocean. Ankara is a strong backer of Ukraine’s independence—remember, the TB-2 drone is a Turkish product—and has not allowed the Russian navy to send in fresh ships to make good the Black Sea Fleet’s losses.

The TB-2 strike on Monday underscores the Black Sea Fleet’s dire condition. It’s apparent the Russians no longer can protect their remaining warships from aerial attack.

Moskva with her 200-mile air-search radars and 64 S-300 surface-to-air missiles, each with a 50-mile range, in theory was the fleet’s main air-defender. But the cruiser couldn’t even defend herself.

Now the Black Sea Fleet leans on a trio of 409-foot Admiral Grigorovich-class frigates for aerial protection. The frigates are some of the newest vessels in the Russian fleet—and the biggest surface warships Russian industry can build owing to problems manufacturing or importing large maritime engines.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 3 May, 2022 10:21 pm
Russia has had 400,000 tonnes of grain removed from the occupied territories of Ukraine, according to Kiev. That is about one third of the grain stocks in the regions of Kherson, Zaporizhzhya, Donetsk and Luhansk, said Deputy Agriculture Minister Taras Vysozkyj on Ukrainian television. Before the war, about 1.3 million tonnes of grain had been stored there for daily supply, but also for sowing. If the grain stock were to be reduced further, famine would be imminent in these areas.
glitterbag
 
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Reply Tue 3 May, 2022 10:30 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Am I the only person here thinking of Stalin?
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 3 May, 2022 11:23 pm
@glitterbag,
Occupation troops have never actually been angels.
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Mame
 
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Reply Wed 4 May, 2022 08:24 am
@glitterbag,
glitterbag wrote:

Am I the only person here thinking of Stalin?


No. I've been thinking the same.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Wed 4 May, 2022 09:56 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Not the first time in a human's lifetime this has happened to Ukraine by Russians, among others.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Wed 4 May, 2022 09:57 am
@glitterbag,
I'm thinking a bastard child of one of the Czars and Joe Stalin.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 4 May, 2022 12:01 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Russian Orthodox Church scolds Pope Francis after 'Putin's altar boy' remark
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LONDON, May 4 (Reuters) - The Russian Orthodox Church scolded Pope Francis on Wednesday for using the wrong tone after he urged Patriarch Kirill not to become the Kremlin's "altar boy", cautioning the Vatican that such remarks would hurt dialogue between the churches.

Francis told Italy's Corriere Della Sera newspaper that Kirill, who has given the Ukraine war his backing, "cannot become [President Vladimir] Putin's altar boy". read more

The Russian Orthodox Church said it was regrettable that a month and a half after Francis and Kirill, the patriarch of Moscow and All Russia, had spoken directly, the pope had adopted such a tone.

"Pope Francis chose an incorrect tone to convey the content of this conversation," the Moscow Patriarchy said, though it did not explicitly mention the "altar boy" comment.

"Such statements are unlikely to contribute to the establishment of a constructive dialogue between the Roman Catholic and Russian Orthodox Churches, which is especially necessary at the present time."

Kirill, 75, a close ally of Putin, sees the war as a bulwark against a West he considers decadent, particularly over the acceptance of homosexuality. read more

The Russian Orthodox Church is by far the biggest of the churches in the Eastern Orthodox communion, which split with Western Christianity in the Great Schism of 1054. Today it has about 100 million followers within Russia and more outside.

Ukraine has about 30 million Orthodox believers, divided between the Ukrainian Orthodox Church of the Moscow Patriarchate and two other Orthodox Churches, one of which is the autocephalous, or self-governing, Ukrainian Orthodox Church.

Francis, 85, has asked for a meeting in Moscow with Putin about Ukraine but the Kremlin said on Wednesday there was no agreement on this.

Russia and the West frame the conflict in Ukraine very differently.

Moscow calls its actions a "special military operation" to disarm Ukraine and protect it from fascists. Kyiv and its Western backers say the fascism claim is absurd and say Russia is waging an unprovoked war that threatens Ukraine's continued existence as a sovereign, democratic state.

The Moscow Patriarchy quoted Kirill as telling Pope Francis on March 16 that the Western media had failed to accurately report the situation in Ukraine - a frequent Russian complaint.

Kirill said the conflict in Ukraine had begun in 2014 when protests toppled a pro-Russian president. Kirill noted what he said was the persecution of Russian speakers in Ukraine's port city of Odesa. Ukraine denies any such persecution.

But Kirill also expressed sorrow over the conflict.

"Of course, this situation is associated with great pain for me. My flock is on both sides of the confrontation, they are mostly Orthodox people," the Patriarchy quoted him as saying.

"How can we foster the pacification of those fighting with the single goal of achieving the consolidation of peace and justice?"

Putin has also cited NATO enlargement to Russia's borders as a reason for the conflict in Ukraine despite what he says were assurances given as the Soviet Union collapsed that the alliance would not expand - an issue Kirill touched on.

"Patriarch Kirill further recalled that at the end of the Soviet era, Russia received an assurance that NATO would not move one inch in the eastern direction," the Moscow Patriarchy said. "However, this promise was broken."

The United States and NATO deny such assurances were given but say countries are free to apply to join an alliance they say is purely defensive and poses no threat to Russia.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Thu 5 May, 2022 07:43 pm
Admiral Makarov, a Russian warship, has been hit by missiles, according to rumours
https://twitter.com/hashtag/AdmiralMakarov?src=hashtag_click

https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/ujaczm/admiral_makarov_a_russian_warship_has_been_hit_by/
engineer
 
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Reply Fri 6 May, 2022 05:04 am
@bobsal u1553115,
If that's true, that's another hole in the Russian air defenses over the Black Sea. From an interesting article in Forbes

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Moskva’s sinking, along with the earlier destruction of the Black Sea Fleet landing ship Saratov following an apparent hit by a Ukrainian ballistic missile, spooked fleet commanders. They pulled back the surviving surface ships.

Many, including one Admiral Grigorovich-class frigate—it’s not clear which—were moored in Sevastopol as recently as Thursday. When the warships do sail from Crimea, they tend to stay 100 miles or so from the Ukrainian coast, potentially keeping them beyond the range of Kyiv’s Neptunes.

Keeping at a safe distance meant the frigates apparently were in no position to help when the Ukrainian navy last week mounted a furious drone assault on the Russian garrison on Snake Island. The tiny hunk of rock, 25 miles off the coast of southwestern Ukraine, helped Kyiv assert some control over the western Black Sea—until the Russians captured it on the first full day of the current war on Feb. 24.

Ukrainian TB-2 drones knocked out Russian air-defenses on the island then went hunting deeper at sea. On Monday, a TB-2 struck two Russian Raptor-class patrol boats with laser-guided missiles, heavily damaging if not destroying both of the 55-foot boats as they motored toward Snake Island.

Without the protection of a frigate, the Raptors were sitting ducks. In that sense, sinking Moskva—and scaring off the rest of the Black Sea Fleet’s major combatants—was as good as sinking the frigates, too. It doesn’t matter that Russia still has three powerful warships in the Black Sea if those ships can’t, or won’t, risk approaching the Ukrainian coast.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 6 May, 2022 06:52 am
In Latvia, a print edition of the European version of the well-known newspaper critical of the Kremlin, "Novaya Gazeta", appeared for the first time on Friday. Novaya Gazeta. Europa" is published by editors of the paper who fled abroad in cooperation with a Latvian publishing house. The issue appeared in both Russian and Latvian and reported extensively on Russia's war in Ukraine. According to the editors, it was also to appear in Estonia.

In Russia, Novaya Gazeta had suspended its publication under pressure from the authorities. Editor-in-chief and Nobel Peace Prize laureate Dmitry Muratov was attacked on a night train in Russia on 7 April and suffered injuries to his eyes in the paint attack.

On the same day, Russian freelance journalists in exile founded "Novaya Gazeta. Europa", which is factually and legally independent of the editorial office in Moscow, wrote editor-in-chief Kirill Martynov in the editorial of the first print edition. "We want to write the truth about the war and do everything in our power to stop it," Martynov stressed.

The print issue is deliberately published in the run-up to 9 May, when Russia traditionally celebrates the Soviet victory over Hitler's Germany with a military parade. But it is not a one-off special edition. "If our readers like what we are doing and if they support us, we will consider publishing a weekly print edition of Novaya Gazeta," Martynov said.

Nowaja Gaseta. Europa Internet edition in English
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Fri 6 May, 2022 05:16 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
It's almost like reading history and news accounts in these same places from the 1880s- 1910s.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Fri 6 May, 2022 07:46 pm
Ukrainian officials claim that the Russian Navy’s Admiral Grigorovich class frigate Admiral Makarov, one of the most advanced in its fleet, has become the latest victim of Ukrainian anti-ship missiles while operating in the Black Sea. The Ukrainian claims, so far unconfirmed, suggest the warship was sailing near Snake Island, around 20 miles off the Ukrainian coast, when it came under attack and burst into flames. The reported location is close to where a pair of Russian Navy Raptor class patrol boats were claimed destroyed by Ukrainian drones earlier this week.

Citing Russian sources, Anton Gerashchenko, an official advisor to the Ukrainian president, reported on his Telegram page that the Admiral Makarov had been hit by a Ukrainian Neptune anti-ship missile. This is the same weapon that Ukrainian military and U.S. defense officials said sunk the Russian Navy’s Project 1164 Slava class cruiser Moskva, the highest-profile naval casualty of the war so far, on April 14. Moscow said the vessel sank after a fire.

The latest Ukrainian claims suggest that the Admiral Makarov is now on fire. While unverified imagery has begun to appear on social media, purporting to show the frigate ablaze, there are some serious questions about its authenticity.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ukraine-says-it-destroyed-another-ship-as-rumors-swirl-of-russian-warship-on-fire/ar-AAWZUMD
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Sat 7 May, 2022 06:06 am
OSINT-1988
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🇷🇺 Last night in Sevastopol, about 30 ambulances rushed to the military hospital of the Black Sea Fleet on Lastova Square with sirens on...

As per numerous Russian navy and Crimean telegram channels...

THE PLOT OF THE MAKAROV CERTAINLY THICKENS!
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Sat 7 May, 2022 08:07 am
https://image.politicalcartoons.com/262774/600/victory-day.png

Putin celebrates Victory Day.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Mon 9 May, 2022 06:25 am
Russian households with satellite television were apparently confronted with messages about the war in Ukraine in the programme guide on the anniversary of the victory over Nazi Germany. This was reported by the Reuters news agency. According to the report, one of the phrases was "You have blood on your hands". Screenshots published by the news agency showed the programme overviews of Moscow satellite television. According to Reuters, such anti-war slogans could be seen on all channels.

Citing the Interfax news agency, Reuters reports that the slogans also appeared on cable television after it was hacked.

The Russian news website LentaRu also published anti-war content. The articles were deleted again after a short time.

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https://i.imgur.com/rUhzXfj.jpg
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