Do you think the Pfizer pill will be a game-changer?

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Apparently it's 88 - 89% effective (while Merck sits at 50%). Do you think the unvaccinated would be more willing to take a pill than a jab?

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[+7] - hightor - 12/15/2021[quote]So you are demonizing them. You are lumping them together into a negative stereotype and writing them off as the enemy.[/quote] Really? That's basically what you've been doing. This is...
[+6] - jcboy - 12/14/2021Iâ��m not so sure. A lot of the unvaccinated still donâ��t believe COVID is real. One lady I know called it a Hoax from the beginning and ended up with COVID and in the hospital for a...
[+5] - Real Music - 12/15/2021[quote]This would be a great thing, in my opinion.[/quote]Okay. [quote]For some reason, it seems most people here are opposed to such a turn of events.[/quote] For some reason, it seems that...
[+4] - izzythepush - 12/14/2021Don't knock microchips, the only reason Oralloy had the vaccine was so he'd be able to use the cat flap.
[+4] - Mame - 12/14/2021You may very well be right. I can't get into the logic of some of these people. I really don't know why they're taken such a strong stance against it. Don't they watch the news? The numbers...
[+4] - hightor - 12/14/2021[quote="an odious and relentless old nag"]It is almost as if they would be disappointed by unvaccinated people not dying.[/quote] Again??? No one here has said [i]anything[/i] like...
[+4] - hightor - 12/14/2021[quote]The problem is that the "unvaccinated" have stopped being human beings.[/quote] What? [url=https://able2know.org/topic/564344-1#post-7184177]Everyone recognizes them as...
[+4] - edgarblythe - 12/15/2021Way I see it, if they put a vaccine in Big Macs the problem will be over.
[+4] - bobsal u1553115 - 12/16/2021Is there anything in the world that doesn't revolve around how brilliant you feel?
[+3] - engineer - 12/14/2021An article I was listening to this morning said the pill works by inhibiting the virus reproduction cycle so viral load is much lower than normal. This has the potential to slow the spread as...

@Mame,

How do we know it doesn't have microchips and stuff like that.

Seems like the same objections would apply - whatever that might be

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@Mame,

Yes! I think it is a game changer.

There is a big difference between asking someone to take a vaccine for a disease they don't have.

The chance someone who is unvaccinated will ever actually be hospitalized or die is pretty damn low. (The chance an unvaccinated person who catches covid in the US will die from it is about 1.6%, and the chance that they will catch covid in the first place is even lower).

You are asking people to get vaccinated to protect them against something that probably won't kill them anyway.

The pill, of course, is for people who already have the disease. That is a much easier sell.

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@roger,

Microchips - that's funny. I think people are more used to pills than jabs. Pills are easier to transport and store, easier to dispense, and likely there is no pain. If they'd come up with pills in the first place, we wouldn't have had all the storage, transpiration, and expiration issues.

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@Mame,

Don't knock microchips, the only reason Oralloy had the vaccine was so he'd be able to use the cat flap.

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@Mame,

As it won't stop the spread of the disease and must be taken within a few days of contracting the infection I think the pandemic will continue to spread and variants will continue to occur. If it shortens hospital stays that will be a positive. But vaccinations so that as well.

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@izzythepush,

That made me laugh!

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@hightor,

Yes, but hopefully they'll be able to tweak it like they did with the jab. I agree with your prognosis.

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@Mame,

I’m not so sure. A lot of the unvaccinated still don’t believe COVID is real. One lady I know called it a Hoax from the beginning and ended up with COVID and in the hospital for a week. That was three months ago and she still has issues with her lungs and still hasn’t been vaccinated. She’s also a Trumplican.

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@jcboy,

You may very well be right. I can't get into the logic of some of these people. I really don't know why they're taken such a strong stance against it. Don't they watch the news? The numbers don't lie. I'm sure there are many reasons, but it's so illogical.

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Does anyone on this thread want the Pfizer pill to be a game-changer?

If this pill is successful.

1) Unvaccinated people will be much less likely to die.

2) Unvaccinated people will be much less likely to be hospitalized (and this will mean more free hospital beds for everyone).

3) The vaccine will become less urgent. But presumably public campaigns to get people vaccinated will continue (for the reasons Hightor outlines).

This would basically end the most deadly part of the pandemic, turning covid into a disease that is manageable at home.

This would be a great thing, in my opinion. For some reason, it seems most people here are opposed to such a turn of events. It is almost as if they would be disappointed by unvaccinated people not dying.

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@hightor,

An article I was listening to this morning said the pill works by inhibiting the virus reproduction cycle so viral load is much lower than normal. This has the potential to slow the spread as well. If the pill just reduces the load on hospitals it could be a real game changer, allowing hospitals to focus on the worst cases.

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The idea that people won't take medicine when they get sick is not only hateful, but it is wrong. It is just human nature we are seeing.

There are plenty of examples. People in the 1980s who continued to have unsafe sex knowing the risk of AIDS took the anti-viral cocktails when they became HIV positive.

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@engineer,

That sounds promising. The only thing I heard when they first announced this medicine a week or so ago was some doctor making the point I repeated in my post; how many people will know they're sick early enough. "No, I'm okay dear <cough-cough> really, just a cold <cough-cough> I'll tough it out."

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an odious and relentless old nag wrote:

It is almost as if they would be disappointed by unvaccinated people not dying.

Again???

No one here has said anything like that.

Give it up, FFS.

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@hightor,

The problem is that the "unvaccinated" have stopped being human beings. Instead of seeing them as rather normal people part of the diverse communities we live in, they are being seen as a cartoonish stereotype.

Read the posts here, and tell me that isn't true.

These are human beings we are talking about, not much different than anyone on this thread.

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@hightor,

I have never been called an "odious nag" before. Kudos for the creativity.

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They are human beings.

They can answer for themselves. And since some of the unvaccinated are here, you can ask them. If you treat them with respect as human beings they will probably give you a sincere answer (if you haven't already demonized them).

Treating people as human beings... it seems like a good idea.

It isn't polite to talk about people as if their own opinions about the own decisions don't count.

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@maxdancona,

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The problem is that the "unvaccinated" have stopped being human beings.

What? Everyone recognizes them as "human beings" – human beings who threaten public health measures designed to protect human beings.

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Read the posts here, and tell me that isn't true.

That isn't true.

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@hightor,

So you are demonizing them. You are lumping them together into a negative stereotype and writing them off as the enemy.

How they actually feel or their personal thoughts don't matter, nor is the fact that each one is an individual in a very diverse group of people.

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