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Experts are suggesting that even if you have suffered covid, the vaccine is still recommended.

Glennn wrote:

If I have natural immunity, and they ignore that fact, then the employer should have to accept responsibility for a needless injection. That seems fair.

Just to make it clear... I am not making an anti-vax argument. I think the anti-vaxxers are insane. I am not going to get into the anti-vaxxer bullshit here.

I am arguing against vaccine mandates. That being said, since I am arguing against forced vaccinations, than this case would be covered (even though medical experts suggest that you should still get the vaccine).

My girlfriend had covid. She had one shot (out of two) before she contracted the virus. She is fine now, but she had several miserable days. She is planning to get the second shot (after a waiting period). She will do this because that is what her doctor told her to do based on science and medical expertise. My girlfriend is not an idiot.

That being said, human beings have the right to be idiots. Doctors can't force their patients to take their advice, even if their advice is medically necessary. Corporations shouldn't be able to force their employees to take their medical advice either. That is what I am arguing.

That is exactly what I am arguing, Frank.

Rights are often a balance. Your rights will conflict with my rights at times, and society has to figure out where to draw the line.

I have three issues with vaccine mandates

1. They force people to get a medical procedure against their will.
2. They force people to give up a piece of their privacy. At least in this case, their employer will be able to see part of their medical record.
3. A policy that leads to people being fired may have unintended social consequences. Firing people has economic costs, and their are potential side issues such as racial justice.

Now, on the other side I agree with you

1. Covid is a sometimes deadly disease and a global pandemic.
2. Vaccine mandates may save lives (although I question how drastic this will be given all other factors including rates of voluntary vaccinations).

So, now we have to balance these two sides. On one side we have a corporations demand that employees prove they have undergone a medical procedure at risk of being fired. On the other side we have a global pandemic.

If you look at these two sides and honestly decide that the risk of covid outweighs the consequences of corporations forcing workers to prove they have undergone a medical procedure, then I respect you.

What I don't respect are people who pretend vaccine mandates are a simple issue with no consequences.

I believe that worker privacy and the right of workers to decline a procedure outweigh the risks of a voluntary vaccine program. I will stand by that decision.

I accept the fact that my policy may lead to more deaths. It annoy me that people here want to pretend that forcing workers to undergo a medical procedure doesn't have any conseqences.

Obviously, asking people to stop at a stop sign does not lead to any privacy issue.

On second thought, if my employer demanded to put a camera on my dashboard so they could fire me if I didn't stop at stop signs... I may have a problem with that. I should stop at stop signs, but what I do on my free time is none of my employers business.

What I don't respect are people who pretend vaccine mandates are a simple issue with no consequences.

I believe that worker privacy and the right of workers to decline a procedure outweigh the risks of a voluntary vaccine program. I will stand by that decision.

I accept the fact that my policy may lead to more deaths. It annoy me that people here want to pretend that forcing workers to undergo a medical procedure doesn't have any conseqences.

I need to read the constitution over once more as I have not taken note of where there is a right to risk exposing others to a deadly disease.

I need to read the constitution over once more as I have not taken note of where there is a right to risk exposing others to a deadly disease.