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@glitterbag,

glitterbag wrote:

Never accepting the results is moronic and obstructionist and stunningly irrational.

And asking for an audit? Out of bounds?

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@Mame,

Mame wrote:

oralloy wrote:

The left never accepted Mr. Trump's victory in 2016.

Of course they did. The only president to never have conceded is Trump.

Of course they didn't. They spent four years trying over and over again to remove a properly elected president. That's not accepting his win.

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@Brandon9000,

Brandon9000 wrote:

Mame wrote:

oralloy wrote:

The left never accepted Mr. Trump's victory in 2016.

Of course they did. The only president to never have conceded is Trump.

Of course they didn't. They spent four years trying over and over again to remove a properly elected president. That's not accepting his win.

No they didn't. He was impeached twice because he was charged with crimes. He was lucky to have the white power faction of the Senate to refuse to convict of the actual crimes.

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@Brandon9000,

Brandon9000 wrote:

hightor wrote:
...Fix what? No evidence of widespread voter fraud has been produced in any of the last few presidential elections.

I disagree with your view that the system is naturally impervious to cheating. I believe people connected to the election could manufacture fake ballots. I believe that ballots sent to every eligible vote, instead of just on request as previously, invites cheating. I believe unattended drop boxes are an opportunity for cheating. And how about requiring someone to produce any reliable kind of ID to prove that he is who he says he is?

C'mon, Brandon...if those conditions really created opportunities for voter fraud...the Republicans would have won the last election by billions of votes. The Republicans make up most of the cheaters!

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If you think 10s of millions of people are going to sit by and let their right to self-government be stolen, I think you're wrong.

That I agree with entirely. Those of us intelligent enough NOT TO BE ON THE AMERICAN RIGHT...are not going to sit by and allow you people to steal our right to self-government.

Sorry that is bothering you folk so much.

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And as to your statement that there's no evidence of widespread voter fraud, I presume that among the other things you must have checked to make that determination, you've read every one of the hundreds of affidavits Rudy Giuliani has from people who claimed under oath to have personally witnessed fraud.

Okay...that was funny. I enjoy a joke...and that was a good one.

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I have to tell you that this contemptuous attitude to people who strongly suspect that they've been cheated out of the right to vote is only going to make them angrier.

You bet we are!

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@Frank Apisa,

People like Brandon are the reason the Nazis got away with so much.

He reminds me of the townspeople forced on a tour of the local extermination camps by allied troops claiming they had no idea what was going on.

None so blind....

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@izzythepush,

izzythepush wrote:

People like Brandon are the reason the Nazis got away with so much.

He reminds me of the townspeople forced on a tour of the local extermination camps by allied troops claiming they had no idea what was going on.

None so blind....

Yep!

When Trump is finally brought down...however that happens...people like Bandon and his lot will claim they had no idea of what was actually happening.

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@Frank Apisa,

I have to be careful, one of my posts has been deleted, but yeah.

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@glitterbag,

glitterbag wrote:

No they didn't. He was impeached twice because he was charged with crimes. He was lucky to have the white power faction of the Senate to refuse to convict of the actual crimes.

Wrong. There were no such crimes. The Democrats impeached Mr. Trump over nothing because they hate freedom and democracy.

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@oralloy,

You're wrong and you know it.

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@glitterbag,

Nope. You are the only person here who is wrong.

Everything that I said is entirely correct.

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@oralloy,

Its lik Al CXapone stacked the jury deliberating St Valentines day.

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@farmerman,

People can actually point out crimes that were committed by the mafia.

The only crime that Mr. Trump is guilty of is disagreeing with progressivism.

Of course to a Stalinist, political disagreement is a crime.

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He who shall not be named, but whom some expected to be reinstated in the White House on this Friday the 13th, said, "If everybody can vote no Republicans will ever be elected again."

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Right about now, I wish I was at a table somewhere with Mame, reading your remarks out loud, and laughing so hard we start gasping for air. You are relentlessly funny.

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@glitterbag,

With wine!!!

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@oralloy,

lesse, emoluments is a crime in our present constitution, Obstruction of justice, foreign powrs, lying to congress, All are more than "Misdemeanors"

Trump is AMORAL and he gets by with so being. Im amazed at how blind his constituency seems to be. Although I can understand how GOPs spread out. The presidents party has a lot to lose and some to win if they circle the wagons around a ham sammich like him.
Hes really not WVIL, as I said, he AMORAL, and doesnt know any better.

Just lets keep him from another term or th Rpublic will be like the Balkans.

what about the felony that was trump university. It didnt quite rise to a Ponzi because it didnt take in enough dough from popl who really wantd to better their lives an h took advantage of them. Thats hardly a good example

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@farmerman,

Is thhi Lindell character certifiably insane?? I was listening to a newsy trying to pin him down yestrday an by his own admission he was stating that itd be easy to fact find crap in his "wvience" SO he took the Creationist root of "W dont need no steenking evience"

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@farmerman,

farmerman wrote:

lesse,

I'm not sure what you mean.

farmerman wrote:

emoluments is a crime in our present constitution,

The Constitution doesn't work that way. To be a crime there has to be a statute.

It is also not at all clear that the Emoluments Clause was even violated.

farmerman wrote:

Obstruction of justice,

The idea that it is obstruction for a president to exercise his Constitutional powers is nonsense to begin with.

But even if he had been accused of something that actually did amount to obstruction, no one could believe the charges anyway because the Democrats have a history of framing innocent people for obstruction (note Scooter Libby).

And even if there were obstruction charges that were both plausible and credible, the Democrats established with Bill Clinton that presidential obstruction is a trivial crime.

I doubt that any obstruction charges against him will ever be plausible or credible, but if it does happen, give Mr. Trump the same slap on the wrist that Mr. Clinton got.

farmerman wrote:

foreign powrs,

I am not sure what you are referring to here, but it sounds like you're talking about the President doing his normal job. If so, that's not a crime.

farmerman wrote:

lying to congress,

Everyone lies to Congress.

farmerman wrote:

All are more than "Misdemeanors"

Lying to Congress isn't much of substance.

Post-Bill Clinton, presidential obstruction isn't much of substance.

The Emoluments Clause wouldn't be much of substance even if there were an actual statute to back it up.

farmerman wrote:

Just lets keep him from another term or th Rpublic will be like the Balkans.

He supports the Second Amendment. I will vote for him again in 2024.

farmerman wrote:

what about the felony that was trump university. It didnt quite rise to a Ponzi because it didnt take in enough dough from popl who really wantd to better their lives an h took advantage of them. Thats hardly a good example

I'm not aware of any felony.

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@oralloy,

lesse(e) =lets see. sorry I missed the second E. Emoluments, as an impeachable and dismiss able charge IS part of the Constitution that affects "getting rid" of a bad president.

"Lying to Congress" is an offense the president is immune (Till hi term i done)
You have hit the point exactly. The fact that he slipped the arms ha nothing to dowith his guilt but the willingness of the Senate to Convict .They didnt do it to Johnson Clinton and twice to Plump.

We are of an age wherein"Hes been impeached twice" will ,IMHO have to do when congress is a buncha toady no-guts.

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Ive already re-registered as a GOP. I can now vote in PA;s primaries to select the candidates of my new party.

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