What are the positives to being biracial?

Specifically what part of the “historical record” was Max editing?

Your response was attacking my rejection of BillRM's racism.

If you don't want to be involved in the argument then why you're jumping into the middle of it.

It sure seems like you were supporting Bill's racist comments.

Just trying to clarify terms. Were the Europeans who conquered and appropriated the land “warlike”, in your view?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_Americans_in_the_American_Civil_War

Native Americans in the American Civil War participated as individuals, bands, tribes, and nations in numerous skirmishes and battles.[1] 28,693 Native Americans served during the war,[2] mostly in the Confederate military and a minority in the Union.[3] They participated in battles such as Pea Ridge, Second Manassas, Antietam, Spotsylvania, Cold Harbor, and in Federal assaults on Petersburg.[1] They were found in the Eastern, Western, and Trans-Mississippi Theaters. At the outbreak of the war, for example, most Cherokees sided with the Union, but they soon allied with the Confederacy.[4] Native Americans fought knowing they might jeopardize their sovereignty, unique cultures, and ancestral lands if they ended up on the losing side of the Civil War.[1][4]

They were worse. Unlike the various Native American tribes which occasionally had inter-tribal conflicts, the European invaders saw the native inhabitants as impediments to colonization, worthy of extermination. Much worse, if you ask me.

They were worse. Unlike the various Native American tribes which occasionally had inter-tribal conflicts, the European invaders saw the native inhabitants as impediments to colonization, worthy of extermination. Much worse, if you ask me.

LOL the reason that they was worst is that first the Europeans a had longer history of very large scale conflicts to draw on and they was aided by the diseases they carry weakening the Tribes abilities to wage war.

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LOL the reason that they was worst is that first the Europeans a had longer history of very large scale conflicts to draw on and they was aided by the diseases they carry weakening the Tribes abilities to wage war.

That's the reason they succeeded but in itself does not make them "worse". The sheer rapaciousness of the European invaders differentiates the war against the native inhabitants from inter-tribal skirmishes.

https://truewestmagazine.com/indian-tribes-torture/

Long before the Euro-Americans arrived Indian tribes were constantly at war with one another. Captives were often put to death. While being tortured, they were expected to show self-control, bragging of their prowess as a warrior, showing defiance and singing their “death songs.” These were public events and the entire village attended, including the children. Some even participated in the torture, especially the women whose husbands or sons had died in battle. It was not uncommon to burn the captives. Execution of a captive, especially an adult male, could take several days and nights.

With some tribes, captives could be kept alive and assimilated into the tribe. When the Euro-Americans arrived they applied the established customary traditions to the newcomers.

Nearly all the tribes tortured their captives to some degree. Some, like the Plains tribes and the Apache were especially brutal. Rape was pretty common for women as was disfigurement. Many women who were taken as youngsters and were not ransomed eventually grew up and were taken as wives. Some, like Olive Oatman returned to her white culture after five years, while others like Cynthia Ann Parker, captured by Comanche at the age of nine on May 19th, 1836, she remained with her adopted people, eventually married the Quahadi, Chief, Peta Nokona and bore him three children. The oldest, Quanah became the greatest of Comanche chieftains.

On December 18th, 1860, Texas Rangers under Captain Sul Ross raided a Comanche hunting camp, captured Cynthia or Na’ura as she was now called, her infant daughter and brought her home. Na’ura missed her life as a Comanche and tried to escape several times. She learned that her young son, Pecos died of smallpox and her daughter, Topsanna, died of pneumonia. The stress of losing her children and unhappiness in not being able to rejoin her people brought on severe depression led to her death sometime around 1870.

I'm well aware of those aspects of pre-Columbian native culture. And, as a counterpoint, not all the Euro invaders were racist murderers. But I don't see those inter-tribal conflicts and their attendant cruelties, as serious, tragic, and reprehensible as the European conquest of the New World. I don't wish to argue this point with you. We may simply have different perspectives on history, what was, and what might have been.

It’s not about facts, it’s about your interpretation of said facts.

You are using the fact that the native Americans were less than perfect as justification for their subjugation.

There is no justification.

It's the blame the victim syndrome. Just like it is today. Trayvon Martin gets murdered. He automatically is designated a thug. Indians get murdered they automatically deserved it.

https://www.whitehousehistory.org/conflict-with-native-american-tribes

st Native American tribes during the War of 1812 sided with British because they wanted to safeguard their tribal lands, and hoped a British victory would relieve the unrelenting pressure they were experiencing from U.S. settlers who wanted to push further into Native American lands in southern Canada and in the lower Great Lakes and the south. Although some tribes remained neutral and some supported the United States, the majority allied with Britain.

The Shawnee leader Tecumseh and his charismatic younger brother Tenskwatawa, a religious revivalist known as The Prophet, spearheaded a movement for Native American political and military unity to resist settler encroachment. When war began, Tecumseh persuaded activist warriors from tribes like the Fox, Chickamauga, Iroquois, Kickapoo, Mascouten, Mohawk, Ojibway, Piankeshaw, Potawatomi, Sauk and Shawnee to form an alliance to aid the British. This confederation supplied vital support to British forces on the western frontier and in Canada, notably in forcing surrenders of U.S. outposts on Mackinac Island and Detroit and aiding British victories at Queenston Heights and Beaver Dams in Ontario. After Tecumseh was killed in October 1813 at the Battle of the Thames in Upper Canada, the alliance began to fall apart, considerably diminishing the power of Native Americans east of the Mississippi to retain their homelands.

In western Georgia and eastern Mississippi Territory (now Alabama), General Andrew Jackson's forces defeated factions in the Creek Nation's ongoing civil war that opposed expansion of U.S. settlements in Creek territory, raising Jackson's national profile and forcing the Creeks to negotiate a peace treaty. The resulting Treaty of Fort Jackson compelled the Creeks to surrender about 23 million acres (most of southern Georgia and half of present-day Alabama) to the United States.