The jury has spoken. I am a little surprised, but obviously they felt the facts combined with the callous indifference showed by Chauvin justified a resounding guilty/guilty/guilty. I wonder if the defense had taken a different tack they might have gottent he manslaughter verdict, but that is just speculation.
Several years ago I served on a jury for an attempted murder trial. When we were locked on in that little room things got heated pretty quickly. The prosecution was asking for attempted murder. We were given the option to return a verdict of armed robbery with no attempted murder. After days of heated argument it just became easier to return the Lesser charge.
From my experience I learned that a jury is just human beings. I actually hated this experience it was a miserable time. I wanted to be a fair juror to follow the instructions and carefully consider the evidence . We really just ended up yelling at each other.
oralloy wrote:I'm curious about something. (Note that I have not bothered to watch the infamous 9 minute video.)
Earlier discussion from some months ago made it sound like the guy was on his side and the knee pressing on the side of his neck.
Recent discussion made it sound like the guy was on his belly with the knee on the back of his neck.
Is it clear which of those scenarios is the case?
I'm not sure if it even matters. I've just noticed that recent discussion seems to describe things differently than what I had envisioned based on earlier discussion.
This is why we have a trial with an impartial jury.
oralloy wrote:So everyone stands around waiting for backup to arrive, and then they try again to put him in the car once there are a lot more officers on the scene??
If so, how do they keep him under control while everyone is standing around waiting for backup to arrive?
According to the testimony of the police lieutenant, an expert with actual experience being a police officer, the neck restraint was unnecessary, dangerous and against training. He testified that he had reviewed all of the tape from body cameras and fixed cameras, and he could see no threat that justified the neck restraint.
That is all I have to go on. As I said, it was damned powerful testimony for the prosecution.