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The Derek Chauvin Trial

 
 
oralloy
 
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Reply Thu 13 May, 2021 04:37 pm
@snood,
snood wrote:
Darren Wilson was tried and cleared of any charges.

I don't recall any trial.


snood wrote:
Is that what you call lynching?

No. I call "having your life unjustly destroyed by a deranged mob" lynching.


snood wrote:
Maybe you need a better descriptive word for what you’re trying to say. If someone gets lynched, they die.

That is incorrect. There have been many lynchings ending in death, but any extrajudicial punishment imposed by a mob counts as a lynching.
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vikorr
 
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Reply Thu 13 May, 2021 04:40 pm
lynching
n. The act of executing lynch-law upon a person; the killing of a person by a mob under pretense of summary justice.
n. Execution of a person by mob action without due process of law, especially hanging
n. Any act of violence inflicted by a mob upon the body of another person.

To punish (a person) without legal process or authority, especially by hanging, for a perceived offense or as an act of bigotry.

Lynching, a form of violence in which a mob, under the pretext of administering justice without trial, executes a presumed offender, often after inflicting torture and corporal mutilation

Definition of lynch
transitive verb
: to put to death (as by hanging) by mob action without legal approval or permission

lynching, unlawfully hanging or otherwise killing a person by mob action

The legal definition of lynching is when three or more persons, which constitute a mob, put someone to death extralegally, without court sanction, without legal sanction, and they do it for the purpose of tradition and/or whatever their version of justice is.
snood
 
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Reply Thu 13 May, 2021 04:54 pm
@vikorr,
Well, Oralloy just makes up his own definitions. Just like he cooks up his whole cockeyed world.
oralloy
 
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Reply Thu 13 May, 2021 04:56 pm
@snood,
That's a lie. You cannot point out anything untrue in my posts.
vikorr
 
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Reply Thu 13 May, 2021 04:58 pm
@oralloy,
Quote:
Well, Oralloy just makes up his own definitions.
Quote:
That's a lie. You cannot point out anything untrue in my posts.

He just did - in black and white. It's barely debatable.
oralloy
 
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Reply Thu 13 May, 2021 05:00 pm
@vikorr,
You're lying again. He did not point out anything untrue in my posts.
snood
 
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Reply Thu 13 May, 2021 05:02 pm
@oralloy,
Vikorr just showed you that your lynching definition was wrong.

People show you where you’re wrong all the tine. The reason you keep saying “show me where I said something untrue” is because you simply deny everything you get shown.

It’s exactly like that proverbial debate with a pigeon. No matter how bad the pigeon is beaten, he just shits on everything and keeps strutting around like he won.
vikorr
 
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Reply Thu 13 May, 2021 05:04 pm
@snood,
Quote:
It’s exactly like that proverbial debate with a pigeon. No matter how bad the pigeon is beaten, he just shits on everything and keeps strutting around like he won.
I have never seen this one before - it's a hilarious image.
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snood
 
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Reply Thu 13 May, 2021 05:05 pm
@oralloy,
Darren Wilson recently bought a house, still has family and friends and the protection of a very loyal fan base.

How is his life destroyed?
oralloy
 
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Reply Thu 13 May, 2021 05:37 pm
@snood,
snood wrote:
How is his life destroyed?

He was unjustly fired and has been unable to find a good job since then.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Thu 13 May, 2021 05:38 pm
@snood,
snood wrote:
Vikorr just showed you that your lynching definition was wrong.

No he didn't. He provided some definitions that disagreed with me, and some definitions that agreed with me.


snood wrote:
People show you where you're wrong all the time.

That's a lie. You cannot provide any examples of such a thing.


snood wrote:
The reason you keep saying "show me where I said something untrue" is because you simply deny everything you get shown.

It is proper that your untrue claims are denied.


snood wrote:
It's exactly like that proverbial debate with a pigeon. No matter how bad the pigeon is beaten, he just shits on everything and keeps strutting around like he won.

You and vikorr are the pigeons in this example.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Thu 13 May, 2021 05:50 pm
@vikorr,
Do I need to point out the definitions that agree with me about death not being a necessary component?

Or is it obvious?

Or do I need to point it out despite its obviousness?

vikorr wrote:
n. Any act of violence inflicted by a mob upon the body of another person.
vikorr wrote:
To punish (a person) without legal process or authority, especially by hanging, for a perceived offense or as an act of bigotry.
vikorr
 
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Reply Thu 13 May, 2021 06:37 pm
@oralloy,
Those don't agree with you:
- not your use - being of non violence against a person,
- not by a mob (which also differs in definition to how you use it)
- with you removing it from context of 2 other definitions talking about death

- and other of your quotes still includes death

- and you ignoring all the other definitions talking about death
oralloy
 
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Reply Thu 13 May, 2021 07:01 pm
@vikorr,
vikorr wrote:
Those don't agree with you:

Yes they do.


vikorr wrote:
- not your use - being of non violence against a person,

The second one agrees with my non-violent usage completely.


vikorr wrote:
- not by a mob

Don't be silly.


vikorr wrote:
(which also differs in definition to how you use it)

Hardly.


vikorr wrote:
- with you removing it from context of 2 other definitions talking about death

Rightfully removed. It stands on its own.


vikorr wrote:
- and other of your quotes still includes death

I'm not sure which quotes of mine you are referring to here.


vikorr wrote:
- and you ignoring all the other definitions talking about death

Rightfully ignored. They are irrelevant.
vikorr
 
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Reply Thu 13 May, 2021 07:03 pm
@oralloy,
Quote:
The second one agrees with my non-violent usage completely.
Only if you read one half of the sentence to the exclusion of the second...and ignore all the references to death...which is self serving,

Quote:
Don't be silly.
also self serving

But that is your MO.
oralloy
 
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Reply Thu 13 May, 2021 07:18 pm
@vikorr,
vikorr wrote:
Only if you read one half of the sentence to the exclusion of the second

Wrong. The entire sentence agrees with me as is.


vikorr wrote:
...and ignore all the references to death

The only reference to death contained within that definition clearly does not apply to all cases.


vikorr wrote:
...which is self serving,
vikorr wrote:
also self serving

Don't be silly.


vikorr wrote:
But that is your MO.

Irrelevant.
vikorr
 
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Reply Thu 13 May, 2021 07:47 pm
@oralloy,
As I said - no one can convince you of anything you've already made your mind up on.

You're one of these people that focuses on the minutest part that agrees with you...to the exclusion of all else, despite the fact that overall picture differs greatly from what goes on in your mind. You can't see past what you want to focus on. It is just one of the reasons no one can convince you of anything.
oralloy
 
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Reply Thu 13 May, 2021 08:39 pm
@vikorr,
vikorr wrote:
As I said - no one can convince you of anything you've already made your mind up on.

Repeating your lie does not change the fact that it isn't true.


vikorr wrote:
...to the exclusion of all else, despite the fact that overall picture differs greatly from what goes on in your mind. You can't see past what you want to focus on.

There is nothing wrong with focusing on the things that you are interested in.


vikorr wrote:
It is just one of the reasons no one can convince you of anything.

Again with the lies. People can easily convince me. They just need to have facts and logic to back up their arguments.
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glitterbag
 
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Reply Thu 13 May, 2021 09:37 pm
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:

That's a lie. You cannot point out anything untrue in my posts.


Well, I can't find anything true or accurate in any of your posts. You're not fooling anyone.
oralloy
 
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Reply Fri 14 May, 2021 05:08 am
@glitterbag,
You are not qualified to draw conclusions about other people's posts.

This thread is one of those topics where you should just let the smarter people do all the talking.
 

 
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