The Derek Chauvin Trial

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@BillW,

That insurrection was planned almost like a barbecue or barroom brawl. Only an idiot like Trump would expect it to have any success.

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Here's a bit of a smile - or cause to be ill - Randy Quaid is thinking about running in CA.

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@edgarblythe,

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Here's a bit of a smile - or cause to be ill - Randy Quaid is thinking about running in CA.

For sure!

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@Mame,

It's not an A or B option. And long term solutions are much better than short term solutions that have long term issues.

My answer would be to remove or modify the government systems that teach people (almost institutionalised) disrespect, deskills them, disempowers them, lowers self-esteem, and those systems that encourage people to be greedy, self entitled, disregard community good etc.

Each of those is a topic in itself. I'm happy to explain them, but I don't think anyone would desire me to do so on this thread, as it is meant to deal with Chauvin and similar incidents.

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Interesting how my two suggestions have been passed over (ignored) in favour (Cdn spelling) of simply arguing the same old **** every day. Every bloody thread. What have you actually ACCOMPLISHED??

I actually don't care if you respond, but, seriously, HOW else to change the future if not via the future itself? And if we don't, who knows where the hell we'll be? This is exactly what's wrong the world over. People just talking, talking, talking, but nobody seriously THINKING about what to do about it and then DOING it.

You haven't solved one bloody issue, or agreed on a system or plan.

You have accomplished NOTHING.

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@glitterbag,

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Ok, I've read your post three times and it still doesn't make any sense, unless you are trying to tell me you feel slighted and you think I somehow missed that

You said:

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People should be challenged when they propose faulty ideas and claim it to be critical thinking. It IS a discussion forum, sometimes a conversation, but when it's a discussion you should at least entertain the idea that perhaps you are way out in left field regarding certain issues.

What is the point you are trying to make for the part in blue? If you have no issue with what I wrote, then it would be pointless to say it. So I'm presuming you have a point you wish to make to me, related to the first part of your paragraph (about your thoughts on challenging critical thinking). So I asked if I had missed some critical thinking displayed by Edgar in relation to his solution.

Perhaps you wrote it for some other reason?

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@vikorr,

Maybe, maybe not. Perhaps I just shared what I think. Good night Vikorr.

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@glitterbag,

Sleep well

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@vikorr,

Good night vikkor

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@vikorr,

There's no way you're going to do that with the current populace. So good luck with that. And I don't care what thread this is on - it applies to everything.

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@Mame,

From your last post, I presumed you didn't want a reply?

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How many of those reading this interesting thread think that the massive votes down of those who think that law enforcement need to be retool is not a fake?

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@BillRM,

I'm 99.9% certain it is a closet white supremacist - who else would be so against reform that they feel the need for anonymous & obsessive down thumbing...all because they aren't able to articulate their thoughts as to why they are against reform?

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@vikorr,

But one with computer skills to write a bot.

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Geez, August seems like an interminably long time to wait on the trials of Chauvin’s accomplices.
I hope the prosecution team they gather are even half as prepared, thorough and effective as the team that prosecuted Chauvin. I have to research whether AG Keith Ellison is going to take as active a role in this prosecution as the other.

I maintain that the successful prosecution and conviction of these three could have even more impact and influence on ongoing discussions of rethinking policing than did Chauvin’s case. Because their convictions could very well convey the message that silence and blind loyalty to fellow officers who do crimes is no longer okay.

Getting the “good cops” to actually be more faithful to their oaths to uphold the law, rather than to the “bad cops” would be huge.

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@snood,

I agree, but this one is going to be a lot harder. The defense got to see the prosecution's approach in the first trial. Two of the officers were rookies who were under Chauvin's training and could argue that "the trainer said what he was doing was correct and safe". I think this trial is going to be much harder including on the witnesses who have all been through it before.

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@engineer,

I see where it could be much harder.

But that could make a jury finding for the prosecution that much more significant.

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@edgarblythe,

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New local story on the TV news just now. Man says a cop kneeled on his neck during a traffic stop - ten minutes- broke his neck. There will probably be more on it tomorrow.

I saw an online story that changes how the neck was injured. No need to follow up on this thread.

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Private Autopsy Shows Deputies Shot Andrew Brown Jr. 5 Times

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Mr. Crump also on Tuesday used the shooting to argue that the culture of American policing remains deeply flawed. He tweeted video footage of a Pasquotank County Sheriff’s Office truck driving down a residential street with deputies sitting in the back, dressed in tactical gear. Mr. Crump referred to it as “the militarized police force rushing to kill Andrew Brown,” adding, “This has become a constant sight across America, the evolution of policing that’s now terrorizing communities of color!”

The video was obtained by WAVY, a Virginia-based television station, through a public records request and shows the truck arriving at a home, followed by shouting and orders to “Get your hands up.”

Deputies from the Pasquotank County Sheriff’s Office fired several times at Mr. Brown after arriving at his house to serve drug warrants. Seven deputies were placed on administrative leave after the killing. Chantel Cherry-Lassiter, a lawyer for the family who watched the 20-second video with them on Monday, said the footage showed Mr. Brown sitting inside his car, hands “firmly on the wheel,” when deputies began shooting.

(NYT)

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I was thinking of starting another thread to encompass all of the cases involving police misconduct; racial disparities in law enforcement, but thought better of it.

I think this one is fine for all that. It was started because of the heinous police killing of a black man that sparked a movement, but that case has connections to all the other cases where police abuse, brutalize and kill with impunity.

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