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How stupid is Trump?

 
 
Brandon9000
 
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Reply Tue 4 Oct, 2022 05:59 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Another claim, not a citation. Anyone may claim anything.
Brandon9000
 
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Reply Tue 4 Oct, 2022 06:09 am
@engineer,
engineer wrote:
Your best bet is to Google "Is climate change making hurricanes worse?". From there you can follow a whole slew of links stretching across the political spectrum. If you want a specific one, here is a university study: https://apnews.com/article/climate-floods-science-environment-ff01bcf4f28a0128f4ccd2c7bd34b981

Okay, that's a real citation and to a source which mentions a real study. My question was one specific thing - are hurricanes worse than in the past? Although your citation talked about a lot of stuff other than hurricanes, it did say that 2020 broke records for the number of named Atlantic storms. However, it strikes me as weak evidence. I'd like to see the number (or intensity) of hurricanes by decade , not merely a statement that 2020 was a bad year.
engineer
 
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Reply Tue 4 Oct, 2022 06:20 am
@Brandon9000,
I'm not going to be able to convince you about global warming. If you are truly curious, you will have to do your own research and come to your own conclusion. There are lots of studies, arguments and counter arguments. I will say, for me, I can see it. The tides are higher and the area around the battleship is flooded more often, there are weeds in my yard that didn't grow there twenty years ago. When my children were young, we would get snow about once a year, enough to build a snowman. Now it's once every five years and then it's usually an ocean effect storm that blankets the coast. I think for many people, climate change is moving from something scientists talk about to something they can see, but I'm also aware of confirmation bias, so I try to find out what solid information is out there. Were I you, I wouldn't listen to me either, but I would start reading because the issue is important.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Tue 4 Oct, 2022 07:05 am
@Brandon9000,
You seem to think convincing you is some sort of victory, as if your opinion means something.

It doesn't.

You're wilfully blind, you refuse to entertain anything that doesn't already fit in with your preconceptions.

Talking to you is a waste of time, when you're not claiming victory or refusing to listen to reason, you're getting people to waste their time finding links and citations to what is already established common knowledge.

When you claim victory you're only confirming how clueless and out of touch with reality you really are.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 4 Oct, 2022 07:47 am
@Brandon9000,
Brandon9000 wrote:
Another claim, not a citation.
"Interesting" opinion. To be expected.
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Tue 4 Oct, 2022 08:13 am
@Brandon9000,
'Are hurricanes worse these days' is a subjective question, if you're looking for an empirical 'yes or no'.

The evidence, which engineer suggested routes to finding statistics to make an informed decision about, is readily available.

This is your big chance to have something you've never, ever shown before: an informed opinion based on history and scientific fact. Start googling.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 4 Oct, 2022 11:54 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Florida’s Leaders Opposed Climate Aid. Now They’re Depending on It.
Quote:
Before Hurricane Ian, the state’s Republican politicians have rejected federal action to cut greenhouse gas emissions and boost climate resilience.

Hurricane Ian’s wrath made clear that Florida faces some of the most severe consequences of climate change anywhere in the country. But the state’s top elected leaders have opposed federal spending to help fortify states against, and recover from, climate disasters, as well as efforts to confront their underlying cause: the burning of fossil fuels.

Senators Marco Rubio and Rick Scott opposed last year’s bipartisan infrastructure law, which devotes some $50 billion to help states better prepare for events like Ian, because they said it was wasteful. And in August, they joined their fellow Republicans in the Senate to vote against a new climate law, which invests $369 billion in reducing greenhouse gas emissions, the largest such effort in the country’s history.

At the same time, Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis has blocked the state’s pension fund from taking climate change into account when making investment decisions saying that politics should be absent from financial calculations.

In the aftermath of Ian, those leaders want federal help to rebuild their state — but don’t want to discuss the underlying problem that is making hurricanes more powerful and destructive.
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Region Philbis
 
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Reply Wed 5 Oct, 2022 05:27 am

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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Fri 7 Oct, 2022 04:19 pm
To any doubters who think the Orange Shitgibbon is going to "get away with it". Fulton County is said to be ready to charge him by December

This just the criminal cases, the civil cases that are active is ... well ... YUGE!

https://www.justsecurity.org/75032/litigation-tracker-pending-criminal-and-civil-cases-against-donald-trump/

Criminal Investigations into Trump’s Finances


Trump v. Vance, No. 19-cv-08694 (S.D.N.Y. Sept. 19, 2019)
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Prosecuting Office: In 2019, then-President Trump sued to block subpoenas issued by three House Committees and the Manhattan District Attorney seeking his financial information in 2019. As of Feb. 22, the Manhattan DA now has access to Trump’s tax information.

Case Summary: In 2019, the House Intelligence and Finance Committees issued subpoenas to both Deutsche Bank and Capital One seeking information about then-President Trump’s finances. Before the banks complied with the subpoenas, Trump sued, seeking a declaratory judgment that they were unenforceable and an injunction that would have prevented the banks from disclosing Trump’s financial information. In addition, the House Oversight Committee subpoenaed Mazars, Trump’s accounting firm, demanding additional accounting information. Trump again sued to block the subpoena.

In parallel, Manhattan District Attorney, Cyrus Vance Jr., subpoenaed Mazars, for access to Trump’s tax records. Trump again sued to prevent the disclosure of this information.

All three cases reached the Supreme Court, where they were decided on the same day, July 9, 2020. The congressional subpoenas were combined into one case, and were remanded so the lower courts could consider separation of powers concerns raised by congressional committees subpoenaing a sitting president. In the Vance case, the Court ruled that a president’s financial information could be subpoenaed by a local district attorney.

Case Status: With the seating of the new Congress in January 2021, the Congressional subpoenas expired. The Vance subpoena again reached the Supreme Court, which on Feb. 22, refused to block it. His spokesperson has confirmed that the office now has access to Trump’s tax returns, including millions of pages of documents. Charges have not been filed.

Update-1: New reporting on Mar. 1 revealed that Vance’s investigation has focused on Trump Organization chief financial officer, Allen Weisselberg, whose potential cooperation with prosecutors could be a significant breakthrough in the investigation. On Mar. 31, the New York Times reported that Vance’s office has subpoenaed Weisselberg’s personal bank records, and on Apr. 8, investigators took possession of financial records from Weisselberg’s daughter-in-law.

Update-2: New reporting on Mar. 8 revealed that Vance’s probe has expanded to include investigation of a $130 million loan the Trump Organization received to build its Chicago tower, and whether the forgiveness of that loan was reported as income, as required by the IRS.

Update-3: On May, 25, 2021, the Washington Post reported that Vance has convened a special grand jury that is “expected to decide whether to indict former president Donald Trump, other executives at his company or the business itself should prosecutors present the panel with criminal charges.” According to the Post, “The move indicates that District Attorney Cyrus R. Vance Jr.’s investigation of the former president and his business has reached an advanced stage …. It suggests, too, that Vance believes he has found evidence of a crime — if not by Trump then by someone potentially close to him or by his company.”

Update-4: On Jun. 4, ABC News and the New York Times report that Trump Organization senior vice president and controller, Jeff McConney is among a number of witnesses to have already appeared before the special grand jury. He is reportedly the first employee of the company called to testify.

Update-5: On July 1, prosecutors indicted the Trump Organization and the chief financial officer Allen Weisselberg with running a tax fraud scheme for over fifteen years. The indictment charges Weisselberg, the Trump Organization, and the Trump Payroll Co. with compensating Weisselberg and other Trump Organization executives with off-the-books funds that were unreported or misreported to federal, state, and local tax authorities.

The indictment includes a reference to the former President. It states that “as part of the scheme to defraud, Trump Corporation personnel … arranged for tuition expenses for Weisselberg’s family members to be paid by personal checks drawn on the account of and signed by Donald J. ‘Trump.” The indictment also refers to an “unindicted co-conspirator,” who is Jeff McConney, the Trump Organization’s controller, a person familiar with the investigation told CNN.

Update-6: Matthew Calamari Jr., the Trump Organization’s corporate director of security, and Jeffrey McConney, controller of the Trump Organization, appeared before a Manhattan grand jury on September 2. Calamari received “transactional immunity for the topics he testified about” while McConney was reportedly asked to clarify his previous grand jury testimony and respond to inquiries related to Calamari Sr.

Update-7: The Washington Post reports that the Manhattan DA has convened a second grand jury “to hear evidence about the Trump Organization’s financial practices and potentially to vote on criminal charges.” One source reported that the new grand jury will scrutinize whether Trump’s company manipulated the value of its assets–a practice that NY AG Letitia James is also investigating in her parallel civil probe.

Update-8: Donald Trump’s longtime accountant, Donald Bender, who worked for the firm Mazars, reportedly appeared before the grand jury. In recent weeks prosecutors’ also interviewed Rosemary Vrablic, a former managing director at Deutsche Bank. According to an anonymous source, “prosecutors pressed Vrablic about Trump’s role in dealings with the bank,” the Washington Post reported.

Update-9: On Jan. 1, 2022, Alvin Bragg replaced Vance as Manhattan DA and took the helm of the investigation into Trump’s finances. Before taking office, Bragg stated that he would be directly involved in the investigation and noted that he had asked two of Vance’s top prosecutors to continue working on the case.

Update-10: Two of the prosecutors working on the Trump case, Carey R. Dunne and Mark F. Pomerantz, resigned from the prosecution when Bragg indicated he had doubts on moving forward with the investigation. The New York Times later reported that Pomerantz stated that Trump was “guilty of numerous felony violations” and that it was “a grave failure of justice” not to prosecute him, according to a copy of Pomerantz’s resignation letter.

Update-11: On Apr. 7, 2022, Bragg publicly stated that the Trump investigation was continuing and revealed that his office had even questioned new witnesses. In a press release, Bragg stated, “I pledge that the Office will publicly state the conclusion of our investigation – whether we conclude our work without bringing charges, or move forward with an indictment.”

Update-12: On Aug. 18, 2022, Allen Weisselberg pled guilty to fifteen financial felonies including tax fraud and grand larceny. As part of the deal, Weisselberg agreed to testify if the Trump Organization ever goes to trial on the tax fraud charges.
19. DC Attorney General Incitement Investigation for Attack on U.S. Capitol

Prosecuting Office: DC Attorney General (AG)

Case Summary: DC Attorney General Karl Racine has said he is exploring whether to charge Trump with incitement. So far, his office has focused on a DC statute that makes it a misdemeanor to “incite or provoke violence where there is a likelihood that such violence will ensue.” Presumably, DC prosecutors are looking into Trump’s statements and tweets before and during the riot, gauging whether they amount to criminal incitement.

That said, Racine has cautioned that prosecuting Trump would be an uphill battle. Though the former president no longer could claim presidential immunity, the First Amendment may still shield his speech from prosecution. Under Brandenburg–the controlling case here–a speaker can be prosecuted for incitement only when their speech is both intended and likely to cause imminent lawless action. This is a notoriously difficult standard to meet, especially on the intent side. Even though some rioters have claimed they were following Trump’s instructions, Racine would need to actually prove it was Trump’s actual goal for them to do so. Despite the trail of incriminating statements Trump left behind, Racine may still have trouble meeting such a high bar.

Not only that, Racine has limited options in terms of what offenses he can charge. Because DC splits criminal jurisdiction with the U.S. government, Racine’s office can enforce only low-level crimes. As a result, he cannot charge Trump with arguably more applicable felonies, and is effectively limited to DC’s incitement statute. And as defense attorneys in DC have noted, this misdemeanor offense is typically charged in street-level disorderly conduct cases, arguably making it a poor fit.

Case Status: Racine’s office is investigating Trump’s conduct but has not filed charges.

Update: As of August 2022, there are no public signs that the DC AG is still investigating Trump.

Fulton County, Georgia Criminal Election Influence Investigation

Prosecuting Office: Fulton County, GA District Attorney’s Office.

Case Summary: On Feb. 10, 2021, the Fulton County DA’s Office opened an investigation into attempted election interference by former President Trump. The investigation is looking into potential violations of Georgia election laws, including the “solicitation of election fraud, the making of false statements to state and local governmental bodies, conspiracy, racketeering, violation of oath of office and any involvement in violence or threats related to the election’s administration.”

Case Status: On Feb. 10, 2021, the Fulton County DA’s Office sent letters to Governor Brian Kemp, Lieutenant Governor Duncan, Secretary of State Raffensperger, and Attorney General Carr informing them of the new investigation and requesting that all records relating to the election, including emails sent by employees from non-government accounts, be preserved.

Fulton County DA Fani Willis also reportedly plans to investigate a phone call between Senator Lindsey Graham (R-SC) and Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger where Raffensperger claims Graham asked the Secretary of State if he could throw out legally cast ballots. Graham’s spokesperson claims that this is not true and Graham was instead asking about the signature verification process. The DA’s office is also reportedly looking into whether Rudy Giuliani violated election laws in making false statements to Georgia officials.

The week of March 1 2021, prosecutors are expected to seek grand jury subpoenas for documents and witnesses connected to the investigation.

On Mar. 6, Willis brought on John Floyd, a national expert on state racketeering prosecution, to assist in racketeering investigations. He has not been brought on specifically for the Trump investigation, but as Willis is investigating racketeering in the Trump case, this development suggests that racketeering charges could play a larger role.

On Mar. 11, a recording of a call between then-President Trump and the chief investigator of the Georgia Secretary of State’s office, Frances Watson, was released By the Wall Street Journal. On the call, Trump urged Watson to look for fraud in mail-in ballots. The Fulton County DA’s Office has said that they will request a copy of the phone call.

Update-1: As of Mar. 28, there are reportedly two grand juries considering subpoenas for documents relevant to the investigation.

Update-2: Reporting (on Nov. 6 and Nov. 12) suggests that Willis is considering convening a special grand jury dedicated solely to allegations of election tampering in addition to the two grand juries that have already been convened.

Update-3: On Jan. 20, 2022, Willis submitted a letter to the chief judge of Fulton County’s Superior Court requesting a special grand jury for her investigation of President Trump. The letter states that a special grand jury will assist because a “significant number of witnesses and prospective witnesses have refused to cooperate with the investigation absent a subpoena requiring their testimony.”

Update-4: On Jan. 30, 2022, Willis requested the FBI to conduct a security safety assessment and provide other protective services following Trump’s alarming and charged rhetoric at a recent Texas rally. He called for massive protests against the “racist” and “vicious” prosecutors if they “do anything wrong.”

Update-5: On May 2, 2022, prosecutors convened a special grand jury to investigate “whether there were unlawful attempts to disrupt the administration of the 2020 elections here in Georgia.” The grand jury currently has up to one year to issue a report advising the local DA whether to pursue criminal charges against Trump.

Update-6: Grand jury proceedings began on May 27, 2022. The grand jury expects to hear testimony from “as many as 50 witnesses” and the process “is likely to last weeks.”

Update-7: On July 5, 2022, the grand jury issued subpoenas to several of Trump’s key associates who were allegedly involved in the election interference scheme. The targets include Trump’s personal attorney Rudy Giuliani; campaign lawyers John Eastman, Cleta Mitchell, Kenneth Cheseboro, and Jenna Ellis; Senator Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.); and attorney Jacki Pick Deason. Under the subpoenas, these witnesses now must testify under oath before the grand jury.

Update-8: On July 13, 2022, Senator Graham moved to quash the grand jury subpoena by filing a motion in South Carolina federal court. Graham argued that he had legislative immunity–afforded by the Constitution’s Speech and Debate clause–because his calls to Georgia officials about the 2020 election qualified as legislative activity.

Update-9: On Aug. 2, 2022, Rudy Giuliani’s lawyer asked Willis’ office to delay his testimony because he was still recovering from a recent medical procedure. The Fulton County judge ultimately rejected that request and ordered Giuliani to appear before the grand jury on Aug. 17.

Update-10: On Aug. 11, 2022, Trump hired a high-profile Atlanta-based criminal defense attorney, Drew Findling, to represent him during the criminal proceedings.

Update-11: On Aug. 15, 2022, local prosecutors informed Rudy Giuliani that he was formally a “target” of their criminal investigation into election interference in Georgia, which generally means that an indictment is possible but not guaranteed. That same day, a federal judge rejected Senator Graham’s bid to avoid testifying, and ordered Graham to appear before the grand jury on Aug. 23.

Update-12: Senator Graham appealed the order requiring him to testify to the Eleventh Circuit, which then directed the district court to consider whether Graham’s testimony should be limited based on his legislative immunity claim. The district court ultimately ordered Graham to testify but also held that Graham could refuse to answer questions about his “investigatory fact-finding … related to his decision to certify … the 2020 presidential election” because those inquiries would fall under his immunized legislative duties.


Westchester, New York Criminal Investigation of Trump Organization Golf Course

Prosecuting Office: Westchester District Attorney’s Office

Case Summary: Westchester District Attorney’s Office of Mimi E. Rocah has reportedly launched a criminal investigation, led by Elliott B. Jacobson, examining, at least in part, whether the Trump Organization misled local officials about the property value of its golf course to reduce its taxes.

Case Status: The full scope of the investigation is unknown but the office has subpoenaed records from the course.


National Archives Referral for Mishandled Classified Materials

Prosecuting Office: Department of Justice (via referral by National Archives)

Case Summary: In January 2022, the National Archives recovered fifteen boxes of documents from Trump’s Mar-a-Lago home in Florida. Many of the documents were covered by the Presidential Records Act, which requires presidents to preserve and turn over their official records. The Archives later discovered that the boxes included “items marked as classified national security information.”

In response to a letter from the House Oversight Committee, the Archives confirmed on Feb. 18 that it had “identified classified information in the boxes” and had “been in communication with the Department of Justice” about Trump’s handling of those materials. Two anonymous sources also told the Post that the incident has “spark[ed] discussions among federal law enforcement officials about whether they should investigate the former president for a possible crime.

Case Status: The DOJ has not commented on the status of any investigation. Several commentators have cautioned that it may be difficult to prosecute Trump because “the National Archives lacks a real enforcement mechanism.” Others, however, have argued that Trump could be charged under several federal criminal statutes that make it a felony to destroy public records.

Update-1: On Apr. 7, 2022, the Washington Post reported that the DOJ plans to investigate Trump’s removal of official records to Mar-a-Lago.

Update-2: On May 12, 2022, the New York Times reported that the Justice Department has started a “grand jury investigation into whether classified White House documents that ended up at former President Donald J. Trump’s Florida home were mishandled,” and that the grand jury has issued at least one subpoena. That subpoena is to the National Archives to obtain the classified documents.

Update-3: On June 3, 2022, federal investigators reportedly removed classified documents from Mar-a-Lago under a grand jury subpoena.

On June 8, Trump’s attorneys received an email from federal investigators asking them to further secure the room where documents are being stored. The email asked that “the room at Mar-a-Lago where the documents had been stored be secured and that all the boxes that were moved from the White House to Mar-a-Lago (along with any other items in that room) be preserved in that room in their current condition until further notice,” according to the Wall Street Journal.

Following the June 3 visit, one of Trump’s lawyers reportedly signed a statement that all materials marked as classified and held in boxes in a storage area have been returned to the government. On June 22, the Trump Organization received a subpoena for surveillance tapes that covered areas of the club where the documents were possibly stored, which the FBI later obtained.

Update-4: On Aug. 8, 2022, FBI agents executed a search warrant on Mar-a-Lago and raided the club in search of additional classified materials beyond those taken in June. Attorney General Merrick Garland later confirmed that he had personally approved the search. The DOJ also asked a court to unseal the search warrant itself, which would reveal the alleged crimes that formed the basis of the warrant as well as the list of items taken during the search. Trump now has the option to oppose the unsealing, which he would need to do by Aug. 12.

Update-5: On Aug. 12, the court granted the DOJ’s motion and unsealed the warrant and property receipt. The warrant revealed that Trump is under investigation for violating several criminal statutes, including destruction or removal of records, obstruction of justice, and mishandling classified information in violation of the Espionage Act. The property receipt indicated that agents had seized 11 sets of documents, some marked as highly classified.

Update-6: Several media outlets, including CNN and the Washington Post, asked the court to unseal the search warrant documents on Aug. 11. On Aug. 15, the DOJ responded by filing a motion urging the court to keep sealed the search warrant affidavit, which would specify the reasons why investigators believed they had probable cause to search the premises. The DOJ argued that the affidavit contains sensitive information that would “compromise” the government’s ongoing criminal investigation.

Update-7: On Aug. 22, 2022, Trump filed a lawsuit challenging the DOJ’s investigation in Florida federal court. Trump’s suit requested that the court appoint a special master to review the seized documents and to screen out any materials covered by attorney-client or executive privilege. The suit also asked the court to enjoin the DOJ from reviewing the documents and to order the DOJ to return some of Trump’s personal property.

Update-8: On Aug. 30, 2022, the DOJ filed a motion opposing Trump’s request to appoint a special master. The DOJ advanced several arguments, including that Trump lacked standing to challenge the seizure of presidential records, that an injunction against the DOJ’s investigation was inappropriate, that a a former president like Trump cannot assert executive privilege in scenarios like this, and that a special master is unnecessary because a government filter team could screen out privileged information.

Update-9: On Sept. 5, 2022, the district court granted Trump’s request to appoint a special master and enjoined the DOJ from reviewing the seized records as part of its criminal investigation. On Sept. 8, the DOJ filed a notice of appeal and asked the district court to stay its decision with respect to the classified materials. It argued that the DOJ was likely to win its subsequent appeal over the classified documents, because Trump could not possibly assert any personal interest in classified government records. The DOJ also explained that the government would suffer irreparable harm if it were enjoined from using the seized classified materials, because it needed to promptly conduct a national security risk assessment.

Update-10: On Sept. 15, the district court appointed the Hon. Raymond Dearie–a Senior Judge of the Eastern District of New York–as special master. The district court also denied the DOJ’s motion for a stay.

Update-11: The special master–Judge Dearie–held his first hearing on Sept. 20, 2022. Much of the argument focused on the status of the classified documents. Trump’s counsel argued that Judge Dearie should not take the DOJ’s word that some of the seized records were classified but stopped short of arguing that Trump had actually declassified them. According to reporting, the judge “expressed skepticism” at those arguments, and indicated that he would likely deem the records classified unless Trump offered contrary evidence.

Update-12: On Sept. 21, the Eleventh Circuit granted the DOJ’s motion for a stay, meaning that the DOJ can use the classified documents in its investigation and that the DOJ need not submit those documents to the special master for review. The appeals court agreed with the DOJ that Trump could not assert a personal interest in classified records, and also noted that Trump had so far refused to advance any actual evidence that the records had been declassified.
Builder
 
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Reply Fri 7 Oct, 2022 04:40 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
TLDR

You're discounting executive privilege.
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Fri 7 Oct, 2022 04:54 pm
@Builder,
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You mean to tell me all those Trump appointed judges that have been ruling against him are incompetent? Trump appoints nincompoops! Is that what you mean????
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snood
 
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Reply Fri 7 Oct, 2022 05:00 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
That was the longest post I’ve seen in a while.

And Trump still might get away with a fine and a prohibition from running for office.
Builder
 
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Reply Fri 7 Oct, 2022 05:08 pm
@snood,
Quote:
......and a prohibition from running for office


Which appears to be the important aspect of hunting him relentlessly.

His ongoing popularity scares the crap out of those pulling the strings.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Fri 7 Oct, 2022 07:00 pm
@snood,
Take a look at Fulton County, the DoJ, and the Manhattan DA's cases. He's delaying, but he is running out of wiggle room. He's going to jail. Wait until they lay charges on him for Jan 6.
BillW
 
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Reply Fri 7 Oct, 2022 07:09 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
My fear is that when everything is finally over, out of deference to his "Presidency", he will not do time. But, the good point is, he will not be able to run for any Federal office again because he will have been found guilty of a felony!
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Fri 7 Oct, 2022 07:57 pm
@BillW,
He's gonna wear orange. Bet on it. Respect for his Presidency, had me gobsmacked for a moment there. Funny joke.
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Fri 7 Oct, 2022 08:32 pm
@BillW,
Respect for the Orange Shitgibbon's Presidency cuts no never-minds with with Fulton County.

Fulton County prosecutor investigating Trump aims for indictments as soon as December

https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/06/politics/fani-willis-georgia-prosecutor-trump-indictments-december/index.html

Washington
CNN

The Georgia prosecutor leading an investigation into efforts by Donald Trump and his allies to overturn the 2020 election is aiming to quickly wrap up the grand jury’s work after the midterm elections and could begin issuing indictments as early as December, sources familiar with the situation tell CNN.

Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis has said that her investigation into attempts to subvert the 2020 election will go quiet beginning later this week to avoid any appearance of influencing the upcoming election. But while her investigation will not make any overt moves in the next few weeks, her team is gearing up for a flurry of activity after Election Day.

“I think her hands are tied, certainly, until after the midterms,” said Michael J. Moore, former US attorney for the Middle District of Georgia. “She wants to pull some of the politics out of it, so to ensure that the investigation is not forgotten, instead of sort of rattling the sabers and subpoenaing other witnesses you would just say you know we’re going to take this time to reflect on the investigation.”

The Georgia probe – set off by an hour-long January 2021 phone call from Trump to Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger asking him to “find” the votes necessary for Trump to win the Peach State – has steadily expanded. It now covers presentations on unfounded election fraud claims to state lawmakers, the fake elector scheme, efforts by unauthorized individuals to access voting machines in one Georgia county and a campaign of threats and harassment against lower-level election workers.

*snip*

He's going down.
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snood
 
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Reply Fri 7 Oct, 2022 08:57 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
bobsal u1553115 wrote:

Take a look at Fulton County, the DoJ, and the Manhattan DA's cases. He's delaying, but he is running out of wiggle room. He's going to jail. Wait until they lay charges on him for Jan 6.


We can wait until pigs fly. Nobody in this country has the balls to put Donald Trump in jail.
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BillW
 
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Reply Fri 7 Oct, 2022 10:52 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
bobsal u1553115 wrote:

He's gonna wear orange. Bet on it. Respect for his Presidency, had me gobsmacked for a moment there. Funny joke.

My mistake, it should have read, "Respect for THE Presidency"
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Region Philbis
 
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Reply Sat 8 Oct, 2022 07:19 am

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