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How stupid is Trump?

 
 
oralloy
 
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Reply Sat 27 Feb, 2021 11:49 am
@neptuneblue,
neptuneblue wrote:
Are you really equating social justice reform with an armed insurrection to overthrow an election?? WTF?
There is absolutely NO comparison.

No comparison indeed.

On one hand you have a bunch of black people burning down businesses because they demand the right to rape and murder white people. Your characterization of that as "social justice reform" is stupid even by progressive standards.

On the other hand you have a peaceful protest against progressive cheating in another election. Your characterization of that as an insurrection is pretty stupid too.
oralloy
 
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Reply Sat 27 Feb, 2021 11:51 am
@Frank Apisa,
Frank Apisa wrote:
Why are you trying to talk sense to that person?
There is absolutely NO CHANCE of it penetrating.

Trying? Failing.

There was zero reality in her description of either event.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Sat 27 Feb, 2021 11:52 am
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:
Builder wrote:
It's almost like you've been asleep for four years. The dems never accepted the results of the 2016 election, and encouraged insurrection wherever and whenever they could.

TOTAL BULLSHIT

Not really. The Democrats refused to accept him from the very start.


farmerman wrote:
The carrier of the party gracefully conceded and made a rousing concession speech.

That does not change the reality that the Democrats refused to accept him from the start.

The Democrats have no standing to complain about the Republicans giving Mr. Biden the same sort of reception.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Sat 27 Feb, 2021 11:53 am
@BillW,
BillW wrote:
Region Philbis wrote:
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How stupid is Trump?
he probably brags about having an IQ of 170...
Thanks Phil, I saw this exact comparison immediately also!😂

It is strange how some people always whine about their superiors.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Sat 27 Feb, 2021 04:20 pm
@farmerman,
I didn't make any proposal. I hadn't even posted in the thread.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Sat 27 Feb, 2021 04:34 pm
@farmerman,
That was a post from today. My replies tend to come after the posts that I reply to.
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neptuneblue
 
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Reply Sat 27 Feb, 2021 05:02 pm
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:
No comparison indeed.

On one hand you have a bunch of black people burning down businesses because they demand the right to rape and murder white people. Your characterization of that as "social justice reform" is stupid even by progressive standards.

On the other hand you have a peaceful protest against progressive cheating in another election. Your characterization of that as an insurrection is pretty stupid too.


Your racist insults show how poorly you treat other people. You should be ashamed of yourself but that would require self actualization, honor, justice, morality and humility, which you clearly lack.

Three hundred people arrested (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/capitol-riot-arrests-2021-02-27/) is Justice.
oralloy
 
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Reply Sat 27 Feb, 2021 05:23 pm
@neptuneblue,
Falsely accusing people of racism is another particularly stupid argument. It shows your complete lack of facts and logic.

You are the last person who should be criticizing others regarding honor, justice, and morality. Those are characteristics that I have in abundance in fact.

I may be lacking in humility perhaps.

I have no idea what self actualization is.
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neptuneblue
 
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Reply Sat 27 Feb, 2021 07:21 pm
The terrifying word salad of Donald Trump Jr and Kimberly Guilfoyle at CPAC was surprisingly entertaining

It’s the WWE-style intro that will be scarred into most attendees’ minds forever

Like a star-studded finale of America’s Got No Talent, CPAC kicked off today with a promising line-up of Z-list political celebrities desperate to get their voices heard over meanie liberal cancel culture. Ted Cruz called Joe Biden “Darth Vader”; Josh Hawley claimed “Washington subsidizes Twitter” and reminisced about about growing up in a “working class town in Missouri” (where he went to private school paid for by his banker father and then attended Stanford, the same college as his mother.) But everybody knew the real event to watch tonight, and it was “Reigniting the American Dream”, starring Donald Trump Jr and his indomitable cheerleader Kimberly Guilfoyle.

Now, you might say that having Don Jr present a speech called “Reigniting the Spirit of the American Dream” is a bit like having Rudy Giuliani lecture on how to book a prestigious venue for your next high-profile press conference. But this couple actually has a surprising amount to give — at least in pure entertainment value.

For one thing, despite our obvious ideological differences, there’s a part of me that can’t help but love Kimberly Guilfoyle. She so successfully channels the raw energy of a children’s TV presenter from an apocalyptic wasteland. “I love Florida!” she cried, bouncing out onstage tonight. “What’s not to love compared to California and New York, right?” There was no reaction from the audience, but she didn’t need it. Head down and smile pasted on, she just plowed straight on through.

Yes, Kim likes to bring the enthusiasm, and I respect that. She infamously screamed at the Republican National Convention that “THE BEST — IS YET — TO COME!” just before Trump lost the election, and no one could accuse her of lying. Today, she told us President Biden is “leading from behind. From behind Kamala, that is! Ha! True story!” After a pause for laughter that didn’t come, she added that America is crawling with “socialists and communists [who] want to see our nation burn.” She predicted that ex-president Trump would achieve “more from his desk in Mar-a-Lago than Biden and Kamala will in the next four years.” I suppose that all depends if you count achievements in public policy or personal golf handicaps, but who am I to judge her truth?

The Republican Party will be “reborn as a party of the working class and minorities,” Guilfoyle promised us, on the day minimum wage legislation came to a standstill in the Senate because of a lack of Republican support. President Trump himself, of course, referred to Black Lives Matter as a “symbol of hate” a few months ago. I guess the GOP must be one of those old “double bluff” parties, like how the Communist Party of China is secretly sponsored by Starbucks or how President Rouhani of Iran runs a world-leading feminist party but doesn’t like to boast about it.

Self-referential as they come, Kimberly finished off her own speech with the old catchphrase, “Yes! The best is yet to come!” before turning toward the stage and giving Don Jr a full WWE-style intro that will be scarred into the minds of attendees forever: “Please welcome THE SON OF THE LEADER OF THE WARRIOR MAGA MOVEMENT OF CONSERVATIVE VALUES, DONALD TRUMP JUNIORRRRRR!” And like he believed for a second that he’d been invited onstage at Madison Square Garden, Junior strutted out to booming music and greeted the audience with: ““HOW’S IT GOIN’, CPAC?” A lesser woman would have cringed. Kimberly, instead, glowed.

The jury’s been out for a while on whether or not Don Jr is the actual son of the 45th president or an elaborate piece of performance art, and today didn’t make it any clearer. Chest puffed out like a pigeon on heat, Junior made topical references to quail-hunting and spent an inordinate amount of time attacking “Lincoln Project Liz”, i.e. Liz Cheney, a member of his own party. It didn’t quite land. “There’s competent women and incompetent women,” he rambled at one point, “…but people get away with it by talking about diversity blindly.” What? I don’t know. Nobody does.

The world salad kept on coming. “This month alone, they’ve banned the Muppets and made a gender-neutral Mr Potato Head” (the former, of course, is just straightforwardly not true, and the latter was a decision taken by a private company, though it is endearing to think of Joe Biden immediately getting to work on toy spuds during his first two months in power.) Democrats are “trying to ban Fox News”. Everything these days is down to “liberal privilege”. Something-something-Hunter-Biden, who is “making billions in China right now” and stole his father’s votes, dammit.

Before Kim and Don came onstage tonight, I remarked to my partner that they would be the worst double act since Adam Sandler played himself and his own twin sister in the terrible 2011 comedy Jack and Jill. In hindsight, however, I feel that’s unfair. Kim is one of the most watchable people affiliated with the GOP, and even Don has his moments of unbridled truth. When he said his father’s speech on Sunday would not be “low-energy” and would “solidify all your feelings about Trump and the MAGA movement,” I thought: that’s fair. Does Junior tend to vacuum the charisma out of a room faster than a black hole colliding with a neutron star? Well, yes, but if you’d spent your childhood being fathered by Donald J Trump, you might have developed that coping strategy too. I’m willing to forgive him that.

Sadly for New York’s performance art scene, Kim ’n’ Don are reportedly planning to relocate permanently to Florida. I suspect, however, that this isn’t the last we’ve seen of them. The best is… well, you know the phrase.

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/cpac-donald-trump-jr-kimberly-guilfoyle-speech-b1808338.html
hightor
 
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Reply Wed 10 Mar, 2021 03:42 am
Court Dismisses Trump Campaign’s Defamation Suit Against New York Times

A New York State judge ruled that the opinion essay at the center of the suit was constitutionally protected speech

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A New York State court on Tuesday dismissed a defamation lawsuit filed by the re-election campaign of Donald J. Trump against The New York Times Company, ruling that an opinion essay that argued there had been a “quid pro quo” between the candidate and Russian officials before the 2016 presidential election was protected speech.

The Times published the Op-Ed, written by Max Frankel, a former executive editor of The Times who was not named as a defendant in the suit, in March 2019 under the headline “The Real Trump-Russia Quid Pro Quo.” Mr. Frankel made the case that in “an overarching deal” before the 2016 election, Russian officials would help Mr. Trump defeat Hillary Clinton in exchange for his taking U.S. foreign policy in a pro-Russia direction.

Mr. Trump’s re-election campaign, Donald J. Trump for President Inc., filed the suit in New York State Supreme Court in February 2020, alleging defamation and accusing The Times of “extreme bias against and animosity toward” the campaign.

In his decision on Tuesday, Judge James E. d’Auguste noted three reasons for dismissal. He wrote that Mr. Frankel’s commentary was “nonactionable opinion,” meaning it was constitutionally protected speech; that the Trump campaign did not have standing to sue for defamation; and that the campaign had failed to show that The Times had published the essay with “actual malice.”

“The court made clear today a fundamental point about press freedom: We should not tolerate libel suits that are brought by people in power intending to silence and intimidate those who scrutinize them,” David McCraw, The Times’s deputy general counsel, said in a statement.

A spokesman for Mr. Trump did not immediately reply to a request for comment.

The Times had filed a motion to dismiss the case and impose sanctions on the campaign. The judge declined to impose sanctions.

The Times was a frequent target of Mr. Trump’s attacks on the press during his four years in office. Before the suit, he accused the paper of “treason,” and he often threatened to take news organizations to court. Last year, the Trump campaign made good on the threats, filing defamation suits against The Times, CNN and The Washington Post. In November, a federal judge dismissed the suit against CNN. The Post suit is pending.

In all three actions, the Trump campaign’s lawyer was Charles J. Harder, who represented Terry G. Bollea, the former professional wrestler known as Hulk Hogan, when he sued Gawker Media in 2012 over the publication of a sex video. That suit, secretly funded by the conservative tech investor Peter Thiel, resulted in a $140 million decision that prompted Gawker Media’s bankruptcy and sale.

nyt/tracy

Awww.....
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 10 Mar, 2021 12:53 pm
@hightor,
Trump requests a mail-in ballot after months of falsely crying ‘fraud’ on mail-in ballots
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Former president Donald Trump recently requested a mail-in ballot for a municipal election in South Florida, according to Palm Beach County records, voting again by mail despite months of repeatedly promoting false claims of election fraud without evidence.

Records from the Palm Beach County Supervisor of Elections, first reported by the Palm Beach Post, show that a mail-in ballot for the town’s local election this week was requested on Friday for the former president’s residence at Mar-a-Lago.

The completed ballot was received on Monday, ahead of Tuesday’s election.

The county elections website shows that the request was made about a week past the Feb. 27 deadline for voters to request a mail-in ballot. Since county rules state that mail-in ballots requested through Tuesday could be delivered at a voting location in-person, it is likely that Trump had someone drop off his ballot for him on Friday at the Morton and Barbara Mandel Recreation Center, located less than three miles from Mar-a-Lago.

Judy Lamey, a spokeswoman for the Palm Beach County Supervisor of Elections, told The Washington Post she could not comment on Trump’s ballot, citing a Florida statute prohibiting her from doing so. Trump spokesman Jason Miller did not immediately return a request for comment Wednesday morning.

Trump’s latest request for a mail-in ballot is yet another instance in which the former president’s actions have sharply contrasted with his rhetoric on vote by mail, often lobbing baseless claims that election fraud was responsible for his loss to President Biden.

Despite his history of falsely claiming that mail-in voting leads to widespread fraud, it’s at least the third time Trump has voted by mail in recent years — the first in New York in 2018 and the other last March for Florida’s primary. Much as with Trump’s voting for the Palm Beach municipal election, an associate was allowed last year to pick up and deliver the absentee ballots for him and wife, Melania, during the primary.

Though Trump has sought to make a distinction between the absentee ballots he’s requested and the mail-in voting he’s denounced, the two terms are used interchangeably.

In Florida, which the Trumps made their official residence in October, the state simply refers to the practice as “vote-by-mail.” He commended Florida in August for its vote-by-mail system as “safe and secure,” saying that the state’s Republican lawmakers made the state’s mail-in voting “different from other states.”

“Whether you call it Vote by Mail or Absentee Voting, in Florida the election system is Safe and Secure, Tried and True,” Trump tweeted at the time. “Florida’s Voting system has been cleaned up (we defeated Democrats attempts at change), so in Florida I encourage all to request a Ballot & Vote by Mail!”

Trump joined at least 126,000 voters in Palm Beach County who had requested mail-in ballots as of Friday, accounting for more than one-third of eligible voters for Tuesday’s municipal election, according to the Palm Beach Post.

The county’s elections website shows Trump mailed out his ballot out on Friday, the same day he received it. County records indicate Trump’s mail-in vote was processed before Tuesday’s election: “Ballot 1 Has Been Counted.”
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neptuneblue
 
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Reply Thu 11 Mar, 2021 07:40 am
Every living former president has urged Americans to get vaccinated in a new ad series — apart from Trump, who's demanding credit for the vaccine
Bill Bostock 2 hours ago

Presidents Obama, Bush, Clinton, and Carter appeared in a vaccine PSA released early Thursday.

Trump didn't take part in the campaign, though it's unclear if he was asked.
He issued a statement saying "I hope everyone remembers" the vaccine wouldn't exist without him.

Every living former US president has appeared in an ad campaign telling Americans to get vaccinated against COVID-19, apart from Donald Trump, who has instead released a statement demanding credit for the vaccine.

On Thursday, the nonprofit Ad Council released a public service advertisement starring Presidents Barack Obama, George W. Bush, Bill Clinton, and Jimmy Carter.

"This vaccine means hope," Obama said in the video. "It will protect you and those you love from this dangerous and deadly disease."

Trump was noticeably absent, though it's unclear if he was asked to join the campaign.

Hours before the campaign went live, Trump's personal office in Florida released a statement in which he claimed responsibility for the vaccines' existence.

"I hope everyone remembers when they're getting the COVID-19 (often referred to as the China Virus) vaccine, that if I wasn't president, you wouldn't be getting that beautiful 'shot' for 5 years, at best, and probably wouldn't be getting it at all. I hope everyone remembers!" he said, using a derogatory term for the novel coronavirus, which was first found in China.

When asked by Insider whether it had asked Trump to join the PSA, an Ad Council said the project with the presidents started last December. The spokesperson did not say whether the Ad Council had approached Trump, who at the time was an outgoing president.

The spokesperson added that some of the ads were filmed at President Joe Biden's January 20 inauguration, which Trump did not attend, having flown to his resort in Palm Beach that morning.

Trump said last year he would get the vaccine but did not say when, and did not say whether he would follow the likes of Biden and former Vice President Mike Pence and get his shot live on TV.

Yet it was reported earlier this month that Trump and first lady Melania Trump quietly got the vaccine in the White House in January.

Trump has long claimed responsibility for securing a vaccine for the US, despite his Operation Warp Speed vaccine-development scheme deemed a failure that was beset with issues and widely criticized.

Members of the Biden administration have said that they inherited no coronavirus vaccine distribution plan from Trump White House, with a person telling CNN they had to "build everything from scratch."

Days before Biden's inauguration, White House press secretary Jen Psaki tweeted that Operation Warp Speed would continue in the Biden administration, but that there was an "urgent need to address the failures of the Trump team approach to vaccine distribution."

Biden later called the vaccine rollout under Trump "a dismal failure."

Trump missed his administration's target of administering 20 million doses by the end of 2020. Biden is aiming to administer 100 million doses of the vaccine in his first 100 days in office, or by April 30.

Biden's plan appears to be on track and the vaccine rollout is well underway. Meanwhile, states including Texas and Mississippi have abandoned mandatory mask wearing.

But Biden said the move was premature and an example of "Neanderthal thinking."

https://www.businessinsider.com/former-us-presidents-urge-vaccinations-while-trump-demands-credit-2021-3
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hightor
 
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Reply Fri 12 Mar, 2021 03:36 pm
Here's a prescient post from last October:

some juvenile wrote:
Imagine that the dems succeed in rigging and stealing the election after being caught red handed bald faced lying to the public.

Imagine how much more popular that Donald Trump would become if the public witnessed the election being stolen from him. In the open. Right before their eyes.

Donald Trump is popular and has an enormous base.

What do you think will happen with that base if they witness him removed from office with the aide of the media, big tech, and the establishment government all breaking the rules and lying right out in the open?

Do you think that Trump's base is just going to forget all that evil?


Trump started the "stolen election" crap last summer and basically poisoned the electoral well. He's not the first Republican to do this but it's interesting how well he succeeded with "the big lie" and how willing his supporters are to continue believing it!
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glitterbag
 
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Reply Fri 12 Mar, 2021 03:54 pm
@neptuneblue,
Loved it.
BillRM
 
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Reply Sun 14 Mar, 2021 02:38 am
@glitterbag,
I would just love to see the result of a study showing the average IQ of the current Trump supporters.

Here is a link that is interesting on the subject of Trump supporters and their brains

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/mind-in-the-machine/201609/the-psychology-behind-donald-trumps-unwavering-support
farmerman
 
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Reply Sun 14 Mar, 2021 07:11 am
@BillRM,
why, they all take these internet IQ tests .(The ones that show we all have an IQ over 220).

Ive seen older dudes evolve from House GOPers to TRUMPIES and , with that, requires them to "Buy" all of Trumps BULLSHIT .

BillRM
 
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Reply Sun 14 Mar, 2021 01:14 pm
@farmerman,
I always been of the prideful opinion that unlike other nations even the world most famous and skillful dictators could not reach any high life stranding if they was born in the US.

Boy was I wrong as Trump did great harm while coming near to seizing power and destroying our republic while being a fraction as skill and bright as even a Mussolini
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Sun 14 Mar, 2021 02:39 pm
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:

I always been of the prideful opinion that unlike other nations even the world most famous and skillful dictators could not reach any high life stranding if they was born in the US.

Boy was I wrong as Trump did great harm while coming near to seizing power and destroying our republic while being a fraction as skill and bright as even a Mussolini


AMEN to all this, Bill.
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