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How stupid is Trump?

 
 
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Tue 1 Feb, 2022 10:34 am
@jcboy,
jcboy wrote:

That really is a special kind of stupid Razz


One thing I've got to give Trump credit for...is being a special kind of stupid.
Region Philbis
 
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Reply Sat 5 Feb, 2022 06:37 am

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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sat 5 Feb, 2022 11:34 pm
Trump’s shredding of paper in the White House was far more widespread and indiscriminate than previously known and — despite multiple admonishments — extended throughout his presidency.

‘He never stopped ripping things up’: Inside Trump’s relentless document destruction habits
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President Donald Trump tore up briefings and schedules, articles and letters, memos both sensitive and mundane.

He ripped paper into quarters with two big, clean strokes — or occasionally more vigorously, into smaller scraps.

He left the detritus on his desk in the Oval Office, in the trash can of his private West Wing study and on the floor aboard Air Force One, among many other places.

And he did it all in violation of the Presidential Records Act, despite being urged by at least two chiefs of staff and the White House counsel to follow the law on preserving documents.

“It is absolutely a violation of the act,” said Courtney Chartier, president of the Society of American Archivists. “There is no ignorance of these laws. There are White House manuals about the maintenance of these records.”

Although glimpses of Trump’s penchant for ripping were reported earlier in his presidency — by Politico in 2018 — the House select committee’s investigation into the Jan. 6 insurrection has shined a new spotlight on the practice. The Washington Post reported that some of the White House records the National Archives and Records Administration turned over to the committee appeared to have been torn apart and then taped back together.

Interviews with 11 former Trump staffers, associates and others familiar with the habit reveal that Trump’s shredding of paper was far more widespread and indiscriminate than previously known and — despite multiple admonishments — extended throughout his presidency, resulting in special practices to deal with the torn fragments. Most of these people spoke on the condition of anonymity to share candid details of a problematic practice.

The ripping was so relentless that Trump’s team implemented protocols to try to ensure that he was abiding by the Presidential Records Act. Typically, aides from either the Office of the Staff Secretary or the Oval Office Operations team would come in behind Trump to retrieve the piles of torn paper he left in his wake, according to one person familiar with the routine. Then, staffers from the White House Office of Records Management were generally responsible for jigsawing the documents back together, using clear tape.

The Presidential Records Act requires that the White House preserve all written communication related to a president’s official duties — memos, letters, notes, emails, faxes and other material — and turn it over to the National Archives.

Some records sent to Jan. 6 were torn up, taped back together — mirroring a Trump habit

Typically, the White House records office makes decisions on archival vs. non-archival materials, according to an Archives official. The Presidential Records Act lays out a process allowing a president to dispose of records only after obtaining the assent of records officials.

It is unclear how many records were lost or permanently destroyed through Trump’s ripping routine, as well as what consequences, if any, he might face. Hundreds of documents, if not more, were likely torn up, those familiar with the practice say.

“It is against the law, but the problem is that the Presidential Records Act, as written, does not have any real enforcement mechanism,” said James Grossman, executive director of the American Historical Association. “It’s that sort of thing where there’s a law, but who has the authority to enforce the law, and the existing law is toothless.”

[... ... ...]

Some experts also said Trump hurt his own legacy with his document destruction practices — leaving less behind for historians to examine.

“For a president to just wantonly tear things up is just a little shocking, that there’s not even a little egotistical thought about legacy,” Chartier said.
glitterbag
 
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Reply Sat 5 Feb, 2022 11:52 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Donald Trump is a vacuum that sucks the joy from the US. He will never have enough of anything.
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hightor
 
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Reply Wed 9 Feb, 2022 06:36 am
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Wed 9 Feb, 2022 07:33 am
A Stormy Daniels comment that needs to make its way to 45:

“No, it actually wasn’t worse,” she replied. “Not to sound conceited, but I actually am a little impressed with how well I handled him. He doesn’t scare me. I’ve seen [45] naked. Nothing Michael Avenatti can say will scare me.”

That would burst several blood vessels in his head.

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/stormy-daniels-says-michael-avenatti-doesnt-scare-her-because-ive-seen-donald-trump-naked/
Region Philbis
 
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Reply Wed 9 Feb, 2022 07:40 am
@bobsal u1553115,

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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Wed 9 Feb, 2022 09:58 am
@Frank Apisa,

Quote:
One thing I've got to give Trump credit for...is being a special kind of stupid.


World class stupid.
snood
 
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Reply Wed 9 Feb, 2022 10:55 am
@bobsal u1553115,
bobsal u1553115 wrote:


Quote:
One thing I've got to give Trump credit for...is being a special kind of stupid.


World class stupid.


It’s stupid unlike what anyone’s seen before. Nobody else can do stupid like this. It’s a big stupid, a yuge stupid. It’s a big, beautiful, gold-plated stupid.
glitterbag
 
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Reply Wed 9 Feb, 2022 11:28 am
@snood,
I think he is just so greedy he will never be satisfied. Greed makes people reckless, Trump just screams until somebody gives him whatever it is he thinks he has to have.
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BillW
 
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Reply Wed 9 Feb, 2022 02:30 pm
National Archives have now asked DOJ to investigate Trump and his crimes in regards to WH records handling!

Is this a hangable offense? Hope so😏
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Wed 9 Feb, 2022 02:43 pm
@BillW,
It makes him ineligible to hold Federal Office again.
Good enough for me, though he'll be in Leavenworth soon enough already.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Wed 9 Feb, 2022 02:46 pm
@snood,
I think he's hasn't reached the depths he's capable of plumbing. Jail will cure that.
snood
 
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Reply Wed 9 Feb, 2022 04:03 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
I truly wish I shared your optimism.
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Wed 9 Feb, 2022 04:51 pm
@snood,
Snood, it's not optimism, but it is about I want no short cuts in justice for the Orange Shitgibbon as he finally gets his. I want no appealable mistakes to keep him from enjoying his just desserts.

If I were in front of the bar in a 45 Administration courtroom waiting for justice, I would not abide with any skid greasing from Bill Barr,either.

I hope he's nailed for everything a well honed and crafted prosecution with no holes will certainly accomplish.
snood
 
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Reply Wed 9 Feb, 2022 04:57 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
Okay, it’s not optimism, then. Whatever. You just seem to have a little more confidence than I do - about what the authorities are going to do.
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BillW
 
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Reply Wed 9 Feb, 2022 05:00 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
I just hope theRump can't stall beyond elections! Peter Navarro is now being subpoenaed!
BillW
 
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Reply Wed 9 Feb, 2022 05:06 pm
@BillW,
BillW wrote:

I just hope theRump can't stall beyond elections! Peter Navarro is now being subpoenaed!

Question: at what point in an Presidental election is prior criminal activities of nominee a mute point, ie, ignore? And, in what point in a prosecution? It is also for felonies, but only particular type of felonies - which kind?
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BillW
 
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Reply Wed 9 Feb, 2022 07:05 pm
Just heard that conviction for the felon of failure to turn over or destruction of official documents prevents that person of holding federal elected positions.
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hightor
 
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Reply Thu 10 Feb, 2022 04:17 am
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