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How stupid is Trump?

 
 
snood
 
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Reply Sat 12 Jun, 2021 06:26 am
@hightor,
When you point out the depth and breadth of the sickness and criminality of Biden’s predecessor, Builder’s inevitable response is to say that’s irrelevant because he didn’t support Trump.

If he was so agnostic about Trump, why would he never say anything negative about him, or acknowledge any of the many, many faults and failures of arguably the worst human being to ever soil the Oval Office. If he didn’t support him, he sure granted him unspoken consent.
So he sneers and calls someone stupid if they point out how much worse things were under a much lesser man than Biden.

It’s just a cowardly and disingenuous dodge that reveals how puerile and desperate his attempts are to color Biden as lecherous and doddering. It’s pitiful.

Meanwhile Biden has gone about systematically and methodically doing things like staving off the pandemic, repairing the economy, addressing domestic terrorism and systematic racism, reestablishing our standing with allies and against adversaries, and pushing voting rights reform and infrastructure repair and rebuilding.
oralloy
 
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Reply Sat 12 Jun, 2021 07:43 am
@snood,
snood wrote:
Meanwhile Biden has gone about systematically and methodically doing things like staving off the pandemic,

Mr. Trump did that, by providing the world with early vaccines.


snood wrote:
repairing the economy,

Mr. Trump did that, when he saved us all from the pandemic (see above).


snood wrote:
addressing domestic terrorism and systematic racism,

Falsely accusing patriotic law-abiding Americans of being terrorists and racists.


snood wrote:
reestablishing our standing with allies and against adversaries,

Meh. Our supposed "allies" will be sticking knives in our back before we know it.


snood wrote:
and pushing voting rights reform

Pushing a bad idea that's never going to pass.

Even the votes that they are currently getting are only because everyone knows that the Republicans are strong enough to stop it cold.

Ten Democratic senators would be voting against it if there were any risk of it passing.


snood wrote:
and infrastructure repair and rebuilding.

Well OK I'll give you that one.

Mr. Biden isn't all bad. Infrastructure repair and rebuilding is something that he is pushing that is actually good and worthwhile.
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hightor
 
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Reply Sat 12 Jun, 2021 08:11 am
someone wrote:
Mr. Trump did that, by providing the world with early vaccines.

Not really.

He told his supporters that the disease wasn't a big deal.

He never made any effort to convince them to actually get vaccinated, costing the country the opportunity to achieve general immunity.

He never suggested providing vaccines to any country other than the USA.
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Sat 12 Jun, 2021 08:32 am
@hightor,
hightor wrote:

someone wrote:
Mr. Trump did that, by providing the world with early vaccines.

Not really.

He told his supporters that the disease wasn't a big deal.

He never made any effort to convince them to actually get vaccinated, costing the country the opportunity to achieve general immunity.

He never suggested providing vaccines to any country other than the USA.


One of the most amazing tells about Trump supporters is that they actually attempt to make him look good on the vaccine question, Hightor. They try to sell the idea that what Trump did in reaction to the threat...helped rather than greatly exacerbated its negative impact.

They give him credit somehow...no matter how badly he screwed up the nation's reaction to the pandemic...and the negative impact that screw-up had on the world in general.

But...they have to play the cards they've got...and all they have is 7 - deuce off suit.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Sat 12 Jun, 2021 09:06 am
@hightor,
hightor wrote:
someone wrote:

Is it necessary to be a jerk?


hightor wrote:
Not really.

Yes really. He provided billions of dollars to allow unproven vaccines to be produced while they were still being tested for safety and reliability.

Had he not done that, the Moderna, J&J, and Astra Zeneca vaccines probably wouldn't be on the market yet. And the Pfizer vaccine would probably have just finished vaccinating the 75+ age group, in the US alone.


hightor wrote:
He told his supporters that the disease wasn't a big deal.

He never made any effort to convince them to actually get vaccinated, costing the country the opportunity to achieve general immunity.

He never suggested providing vaccines to any country other than the USA.

He's still the reason why we have all these vaccines as early as we do.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sat 12 Jun, 2021 09:24 am
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:
And the Pfizer vaccine would probably have just finished vaccinating the age 75+ group in the US alone.

Quote:
We used our proprietary mRNA technology to develop our COVID-19 vaccine, as this technology allows new vaccine candidates to be designed and manufactured faster and more efficiently than conventional vaccine manufacturing methods would allow. BioNTech's mRNA vaccine technology enables rapid development and short manufacturing cycles, which is critical to getting a COVID-19 vaccine to market and to address urgent unmet medical needs. At BioNTech, we have over a decade of experience with our proprietary mRNA-based technology platforms.

For more information and how and why Pfizer got involve, see the website


Interesting as well:
https://i.imgur.com/9NVFLO3.jpg
A network analysis of COVID-19 mRNA vaccine patents


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hightor
 
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Reply Sun 13 Jun, 2021 04:51 am
'Probably the worst things that have happened to him in the last four years': Donald Trump's niece Mary says his Twitter ban and golf tournament snub were a bigger blow than losing the election

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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Mon 14 Jun, 2021 12:57 am
Fox News host Kayleigh McEnany says she ‘never lied’ as Trump press secretary
Quote:
The White House press secretary turned Fox News contributor Kayleigh McEnany has claimed she “never lied” while speaking for Donald Trump.

Addressing a conservative group on Sunday, McEnany said of her first steps in the role: “And then there was the question, ‘Will you ever lie to us?’, and I said without hesitation, ‘No’, and I never did, as a woman of faith.

“As a mother of baby Blake, as a person who meticulously prepared at some of the world’s hardest institutions, I never lied. I sourced my information, but that will never stop the press from calling you a liar.”

She was responding to questions about reporting by Bob Woodward of the Washington Post, to whom Trump said in March 2020, as the coronavirus pandemic took hold: “To be honest with you, I wanted to always play it down. I still like playing it down, because I don’t want to create a panic.”

Politifact said: “The record shows she’s wrong.”
[...]
McEnany is one of a number of veterans of the Trump White House to have found roles at Fox News, where she is a commentator and co-hosts Outnumbered.

But when she was press secretary, even Fox News cut away from her remarks when she advanced Trump’s lie that his defeat by Biden was the result of electoral fraud.

In March, responding to news of McEnany’s new job, an anonymous Fox News staffer quoted by the Daily Beast referred to the 6 January attack on the US Capitol in calling McEnany “a mini-Goebbels” who “helped incite an insurrection on our democracy”.

On Sunday, amid uproar over her claim never to have lied in service of Trump, she tweeted: “Haters will hate!”

BillW
 
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Reply Mon 14 Jun, 2021 01:16 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:

Fox News host Kayleigh McEnany says she ‘never lied’ as Trump press secretary
Quote:
The White House press secretary turned Fox News contributor Kayleigh McEnany has claimed she “never lied” while speaking for Donald Trump.
,...................

On Sunday, amid uproar over her claim never to have lied in service of Trump, she tweeted: “Haters will hate!”


......and, Liars will Lie!
coluber2001
 
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Reply Mon 14 Jun, 2021 04:32 pm
@BillW,
BillW wrote:

Walter Hinteler wrote:

Fox News host Kayleigh McEnany says she ‘never lied’ as Trump press secretary
Quote:
The White House press secretary turned Fox News contributor Kayleigh McEnany has claimed she “never lied” while speaking for Donald Trump.
,...................

On Sunday, amid uproar over her claim never to have lied in service of Trump, she tweeted: “Haters will hate!”


......and, Liars will Lie!

And Joseph Goebbels never lied to the people except when it was for the good of the Reich.
BillW
 
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Reply Mon 14 Jun, 2021 04:42 pm
@coluber2001,
coluber2001 wrote:

BillW wrote:

Walter Hinteler wrote:

Fox News host Kayleigh McEnany says she ‘never lied’ as Trump press secretary
Quote:
The White House press secretary turned Fox News contributor Kayleigh McEnany has claimed she “never lied” while speaking for Donald Trump.
,...................

On Sunday, amid uproar over her claim never to have lied in service of Trump, she tweeted: “Haters will hate!”


......and, Liars will Lie!

And Joseph Goebbels never lied to the people except when it was for the good of the Reich.


After the Nazis came to power in 1933, Goebbels's Propaganda Ministry quickly gained and exerted control over the news media, arts, and information in Germany.

propaganda -
information, especially of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote or publicize a particular political cause or point of view.

"he was charged with distributing enemy propaganda"

synonyms: information, promotion, advertising, advertisement, publicity, advocacy, spin, newspeak, agitprop, disinformation, counter-information, brainwashing, indoctrination, the big lie, info, hype, plugging, disinfo

Yeap, sounds like tRump to me!

In accordance with Hitler's will, Goebbels succeeded him as Chancellor of Germany; he served one day in this post. The following day, Goebbels and his wife committed suicide, after poisoning their six children with cyanide.
...................
hmmmmmmmmmmm...........
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Region Philbis
 
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Reply Tue 15 Jun, 2021 10:22 am

https://iili.io/CdnbMG.jpg
Jsorel
 
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Reply Wed 16 Jun, 2021 11:20 am
@Region Philbis,
Given Bden's long term penchant for malaprops, and his repeated episodes of increasingly debilitating cognitive dysfunction, it is hard to believe that anything good for the USA will come out of this meeting,
farmerman
 
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Reply Wed 16 Jun, 2021 01:14 pm
@Jsorel,
Ya want malaprops??? Plump would deliver outright 2nd grade vocabulary terms in one half day than Biden gave us since hes taken office. Are you deaf or just a GOP hack? (Choose one)
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Wed 16 Jun, 2021 01:33 pm
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:

Ya want malaprops??? Plump would deliver outright 2nd grade vocabulary terms in one half day than Biden gave us since hes taken office. Are you deaf or just a GOP hack? (Choose one)


How these people can possibly fault Joe Biden on things like malaprops or near dementia moments is beyond understanding. As you said, Trump delivered more of that kind of bullshit and hack thinking in a half day than Joe Biden has done in 5 months.

They are not deaf nor hacks. They are nuts.
Mame
 
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Reply Wed 16 Jun, 2021 01:45 pm
@Frank Apisa,
There is no comparison between the two men. Biden wouldn't/couldn't think, much less utter, some of the things Trump has said.

Here are some Trumpisms:

On Syrian Refugees
"What I won't do is take in two hundred thousand Syrians who could be ISIS... I have been watching this migration. And I see the people. I mean, they're men. They're mostly men, and they're strong men. These are physically young, strong men. They look like prime-time soldiers. Now it's probably not true, but where are the women?... So, you ask two things. Number one, why aren't they fighting for their country? And number two, I don't want these people coming over here."

On Border Control
"I will build a great, great wall on our southern border, and I will have Mexico pay for that wall. Mark my words."

On September 11th
"I think I could have stopped it because I have very tough illegal immigration policies, and people aren't coming into this country unless they're vetted and vetted properly."

Hannity, 20/10/15

On Helping Women
"I will be phenomenal to the women. I mean, I want to help women."

Face the Nation, 9/8/15

On Abortion
“Do you believe in punishment for abortion – yes or no – as a principle?”

“The answer is there has to be some form of punishment.”

“For the woman?”

“Yeah, there has to be some form.”

MSNBC, 30/3/16

On Gay Marriage
"It's like in golf... A lot of people - I don't want this to sound trivial - but a lot of people are switching to these really long putters, very unattractive... it's weird. You see these great players with these really long putters, because they can't sink three-footers anymore. And, I hate it. I am a traditionalist. I have so many fabulous friends who happen to be gay, but I am a traditionalist."

New York Times, 1/5/11

On Health Care
"The U.S. cannot allow EBOLA-infected people back. People that go to far away places to help out are great - but must suffer the consequences!"

Twitter, 2/9/14

On Global Warming
"It's really cold outside, they are calling it a major freeze, weeks ahead of normal. Man, we could use a big fat dose of global warming!"

Twitter, 19/10/15

On Mexico
"They're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people."

Campaign launch rally, 15/6/15

On Fighting Terrorism
"When you see the other side chopping off heads, waterboarding doesn't sound very severe."

This Week with George Stephanopoulos, 2/8/16

On Global Warming
"The concept of global warming was created by and for the Chinese in order to make U.S. manufacturing non-competitive."

Twitter, 6/10/12

On Political Correctness
"I think the big problem this country has is being politically correct. I've been challenged by so many people and I don't, frankly, have time for total political correctness."

Fox News Republican debate, 6/8/15

On Making America Great Again
"The line of 'Make America great again,' the phrase, that was mine, I came up with it about a year ago, and I kept using it, and everybody's using it, they are all loving it. I don't know, I guess I should copyright it, maybe I have copyrighted it."

MyFox New York, March 2015

("Let's Make America Great Again" was one of Ronald Reagan's most well-known campaign slogans)

On Why He's The Right Candidate
"I'm the most successful person ever to run for the presidency, by far. Nobody's ever been more successful than me. I'm the most successful person ever to run. Ross Perot isn't successful like me. Romney - I have a Gucci store that's worth more than Romney."

Des Moines Register, 2/6/15

Just a sampling - all from:

https://www.shortlist.com/news/most-ridiculous-trump-quotes-ever
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Region Philbis
 
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Reply Sat 26 Jun, 2021 06:14 am

https://iili.io/oK8r9p.jpg
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hightor
 
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Reply Sun 27 Jun, 2021 01:26 pm
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EsX7Vg0XMAAIrj-.jpg
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Region Philbis
 
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Reply Tue 29 Jun, 2021 01:07 pm

enjoy Colbert...

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Builder
 
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Reply Wed 30 Jun, 2021 02:03 am
@Jsorel,
Quote:
Given Bden's long term penchant for malaprops, and his repeated episodes of increasingly debilitating cognitive dysfunction, it is hard to believe that anything good for the USA will come out of this meeting,


More interesting, is that the dogpile never-trumper crew here think that creepy Joe's multiple stumbles, and inability to read from auto-cues, are quite acceptable, and that his leering comments about a pre-teen girl looking nineteen are just a bit of fun.

The press, likewise, would have made mince-meat of president Trump for the same actions, but don't even mention creepy Joe's actions.

Tells me all I need to know about the veracity and culpability of the mass media. We all knew how bogus these never-Trumpers here would act.

 

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