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Has Donald J. Trump overturned the Election result today?

 
 
glitterbag
 
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Reply Mon 23 Nov, 2020 09:36 pm
@lmur,
It looks like those two bozo's Rush Limbaugh and Geraldo are upset because Trump and his Merry Bunch of henchmen have no bombshell evidence. Eek, What a shame.
farmerman
 
  4  
Reply Tue 24 Nov, 2020 02:04 am
@glitterbag,
well Pa has finally certified their vote talley . Rudy blew his llast laod of Bullshit after being lectured by a totally unimpressed judge in Williamsport Pa.

It now appears that 79 million Amwricans will not be disenfranchised by a petulant fat despot and his own version of Dr Goebbels.

Also, the presidnt has finally ordered the GSA to release the support for getting the transition going. Apparently guys like Christy have reminded Plump that his "legacy" (and any future political dreams, are on the line.


People are fickle.
lmur
 
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Reply Tue 24 Nov, 2020 02:29 am
@glitterbag,
Trump can at least claim to be the C-i-C of the Deepiest State Ever. Of all the Deepy States, mine has been the Deepiest. No State has been Deepier. Believe me.
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lmur
 
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Reply Tue 24 Nov, 2020 02:31 am
@farmerman,
Looks like this thread is gonna end somewhat earlier than anticipated.
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Brandon9000
 
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Reply Tue 24 Nov, 2020 06:56 am
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:
The Jessy Jacob affidavit had absolutely no proof behind it, the judge questioned the sources and the affiant conveniently had memory problems.

Nonsense. Cite your source. If you cannot, then you lose.

...

farmerman wrote:
When its nothing more than Trump and his minions trying to STEAL AN ELECTION.

Using legal avenues to try to get recounts and audits is neither a crime, nor immoral, nor unusual, nor stealing. It's trying to stop stealing.
Brandon9000
 
  -4  
Reply Tue 24 Nov, 2020 06:57 am
@maxdancona,
I saw endless insinuation that Trump collaborated with Russia to try to steal the election. Do you remember the Mueller investigation or the congressional investigations that preceded it?
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 24 Nov, 2020 08:01 am
@Brandon9000,
Brandon9000 wrote:
farmerman wrote:
The Jessy Jacob affidavit had absolutely no proof behind it, the judge questioned the sources and the affiant conveniently had memory problems.

Nonsense.

Quote:
A Wayne County judge last week denied the request, finding many of the claims without merit following rebuttals from city officials.
[...]
The Michigan Court of Appeals on Monday night denied an appeal of the Wayne County judge's ruling. Two of the three judges on the panel were appointed by Republican governors.
[...]
Among the affidavits the Great Lakes Justice Center submitted was one by state Sen. A look at the affidavits in the case:
[...]
Jessy Jacob, a Detroit employee the city said has been on furlough. She claimed that while working at a city satellite voting center, she saw election workers "coaching and trying to coach voters to vote for Joe Biden and the Democrat party" as well as encouraging them to vote a straight Democratic ballot. Jacob asserted she saw several people already issued an absentee ballot cast a separate one but fail to surrender their old ballot or sign an affidavit disqualifying the first, as the law requires. While processing ballots on Nov. 4 at TCF Center, Jacob alleged that she was ordered to pre-date absentee ballots' receipt date into the qualified voter file system, ignore ballot deficiencies and not compare absentee ballot signatures with ones on file.

In an affidavit, Daniel Baxter, a special project election consultant for the Detroit Department of Elections, said Jacob's claim suggests that she did not understand many of the processes that she observed, and for which she was not responsible.

He said election workers "do not offer opinions on candidates or on proposals," and that to prevent double voting, "until the first ballot is canceled, a second ballot cannot be issued. In the event the first ballot is returned, it is verified in the Qualified Voter File and rejected as a duplicate."

Addressing Jacob's allegation regarding signature checks, Thomas' affidavit said "ballots delivered to the TCF Center had been verified by the City Clerk’s staff

prior to delivery in a process prescribed by Michigan law." Also: "No ballot could have been 'backdated' ... The mailing date recorded for absentee ballot packages would have no impact on the rights of the voters and no effect on the processing and counting of absentee votes."
... ... ...
The Detroit News
maxdancona
 
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Reply Tue 24 Nov, 2020 08:02 am
@Brandon9000,
The Mueller investigation was an attempt to understand the Ruusian influence on our election.

This Trump tantrum is an attempt to stay in power.

They are not the same at all. I will not complain about any congressional investigation.
Brandon9000
 
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Reply Tue 24 Nov, 2020 08:25 am
@maxdancona,
maxdancona wrote:
The Mueller investigation was an attempt to understand the Ruusian influence on our election.

This Trump tantrum is an attempt to stay in power.

They are not the same at all. I will not complain about any congressional investigation.

Trump was repeatedly said for years, and is even still said, to have actively cooperated with the Russians in election cheating. The Mueller report said that although the Trump campaign received numerous offers, they didn't accept any of them.

Any candidate in any election has the right to ask for a recount or an audit, if either the margin of victory is small or he can show evidence suggesting fraud. It isn't remotely unethical. Gore did it and others have done it. Cheating, however, is unethical.
Brandon9000
 
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Reply Tue 24 Nov, 2020 08:30 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Jessy Jacob has sworn under oath that she and others were instructed to back date mail-in ballots to indicate that they came in before the cut-off date. Either she is telling the truth or she is lying.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 24 Nov, 2020 08:38 am
@Brandon9000,
Brandon9000 wrote:
Jessy Jacob has sworn under oath that she and others were instructed to back date mail-in ballots to indicate that they came in before the cut-off date. Either she is telling the truth or she is lying.
There certainly were those two options.
But since the the affiliate was about a 'hearsay evidence' and/or about a hearsay of hearsay evidence, there are more options than just two.
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maxdancona
 
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Reply Tue 24 Nov, 2020 09:35 am
@Brandon9000,
Brandon you are being silly.

Jessy Jacabs' story was rejected in court because it was unsubstantiated. She failed to give any evidence that what she was saying was true; no names, no dates, no places no reporting ... nothing that could be confirmed.

This was heard in court and rejected as nonsense. That is why we have courts.

Brandon, step out of your little bubble and think about the arguments you are making. They don't make any sense to anyone on the outside.
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Tue 24 Nov, 2020 09:40 am
@Brandon9000,
Brandon9000 wrote:

maxdancona wrote:
The Mueller investigation was an attempt to understand the Ruusian influence on our election.

This Trump tantrum is an attempt to stay in power.

They are not the same at all. I will not complain about any congressional investigation.

Trump was repeatedly said for years, and is even still said, to have actively cooperated with the Russians in election cheating. The Mueller report said that although the Trump campaign received numerous offers, they didn't accept any of them.[/size]

Any candidate in any election has the right to ask for a recount or an audit, if either the margin of victory is small or he can show evidence suggesting fraud. It isn't remotely unethical. Gore did it and others have done it. Cheating, however, is unethical.


That is NOT what the Mueller Report said.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 24 Nov, 2020 10:07 am
@maxdancona,
maxdancona wrote:
This was heard in court and rejected as nonsense. That is why we have courts.
And the courts' (plural!) orders and ruling are online, if that's not source enough.
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knaivete
 
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Reply Tue 24 Nov, 2020 09:07 pm
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lmur
 
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Reply Wed 25 Nov, 2020 01:56 am
@lmur,
Tuesday November 24th 2020.

Donald J. Trump has not overturned the Election result today.

(For the purposes of this post, I have moved virtually to Hawaii).
glitterbag
 
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Reply Wed 25 Nov, 2020 10:42 pm
@lmur,
It's 11:41PM EST, so far it hasn't been overturned.
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Brandon9000
 
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Reply Thu 26 Nov, 2020 05:04 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Frank Apisa wrote:

Brandon9000 wrote:

maxdancona wrote:
The Mueller investigation was an attempt to understand the Ruusian influence on our election.

This Trump tantrum is an attempt to stay in power.

They are not the same at all. I will not complain about any congressional investigation.

Trump was repeatedly said for years, and is even still said, to have actively cooperated with the Russians in election cheating. The Mueller report said that although the Trump campaign received numerous offers, they didn't accept any of them.[/size]

Any candidate in any election has the right to ask for a recount or an audit, if either the margin of victory is small or he can show evidence suggesting fraud. It isn't remotely unethical. Gore did it and others have done it. Cheating, however, is unethical.


That is NOT what the Mueller Report said.

"Mueller found no evidence members of the Trump campaign -- or anyone associated with it -- colluded with Russia during the 2016 presidential election, despite numerous offers from Kremlin-linked sources."

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/more-than-half-of-americans-believe-mueller-probe-was-fair-satisfied-with-results-poll
Brandon9000
 
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Reply Thu 26 Nov, 2020 05:16 pm
@maxdancona,
maxdancona wrote:

Brandon you are being silly.

Jessy Jacabs' story was rejected in court because it was unsubstantiated. She failed to give any evidence that what she was saying was true; no names, no dates, no places no reporting ... nothing that could be confirmed.

This was heard in court and rejected as nonsense. That is why we have courts.

Brandon, step out of your little bubble and think about the arguments you are making. They don't make any sense to anyone on the outside.

A witness stating that she was told to back date ballots need not have tape recorded the conversation in order to testify. Usually, witnesses in a courtroom, stating what they saw, or heard, or were told cannot prove that their accounts are true. Witnesses are not restricted to providing only accounts that they recorded.

Since she has said that a supervisor told her to back date ballots, I'm sure that if asked, she could name the supervisor or at least state approximately when and where it occurred. Please provide a link in which someone asks her in court and she says that she doesn't know. It seems to me that if the court needed additional details beyond what the affidavit (which you haven't seen) stated, one might have asked the witness to provide them.
glitterbag
 
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Reply Thu 26 Nov, 2020 05:35 pm
Nope, Biden still to be inaugurated .
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