Rove was the source of the Plame leak... so it appears

There is a difference but it seems that moist conservatives who post on internet sites have a real problem understanding nuance.

Yeah, that's bullsh*t Helen. But we'll see how this plays out, won't we?

Lash

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Some reporters actually get a "lead" and then investigate. Rove could've said that Wilson's wife got him the Niger gig.

Then Novak could've said--how did she do that?

Rove could've said--she's in a position top do things like that--Look into it.

You don't know what Rove could've said. But there are several ways he could've tipped Novak off to her without naming her as a covert spy.

He could've said she was fair game because he thought she was fair game--meaning not undercover.

Why should anyone be 'fair game?'

Why is it fair game to out the wife of someone who is speaking badly about the Administration? Even if they are not secret (which she was)?

I really can't believe the lengths you people will go to to justify the misbehavior of your leaders...

Cycloptichorn

I say we apply the Bush/Rumsfeld method to this problem. We invade Washington, round up all the members of the current regime, ship 'em off to a prison camp on an island, where we abuse, torture and humiliate 'em for years on end until somebody fesses up . . .

July 5, 2005
Jail for Journalists in Leak Case, Prosecutor Urges
By REUTERS
Filed at 6:04 p.m. ET

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Two journalists should be jailed for refusing to reveal their confidential sources to a grand jury investigating the leak of a covert CIA operative's name to the news media, a federal prosecutor said on Tuesday.

Special Counsel Patrick Fitzgerald urged Chief U.S. District Judge Thomas Hogan to reject requests from New York Times correspondent Judith Miller and Time magazine reporter Matthew Cooper for home detention instead of jail.

``Journalists are not entitled to promise confidentiality -- no one in America is,'' Fitzgerald, a U.S. Justice Department prosecutor, wrote in one of the court filings ...

... The judge has scheduled a hearing on Wednesday to consider the punishment for Miller and Cooper for refusing to disclose their sources and comply with a subpoena requiring them to turn over documents and testify before the grand jury.

They have been found in contempt by Hogan and each could be jailed for up to 120 days, the remainder of the grand jury's term ...

... Fitzgerald said ``special treatment'' for the journalists would ``enable, rather than deter, defiance of the court's authority.''

``Although confinement in a federal detention facility would separate Cooper from his family, special counsel reiterates that all Cooper need do to avoid this result is to follow the law as all American citizens are required to,'' he said.

Fitzgerald made a similar argument in the Miller case and said she would be jailed only for as long as she refuses to comply. ``Miller could avoid even a minute of separation from her husband if she would do no more than just follow the law.''

Fitzgerald said the judge should reject an alternative request by the journalists that they be sent to a specified federal prison camp instead of to a local jail ...

'Wash Post' Wonders if Leaker of Plame's Identity Was a Reporter

By E&P Staff

Published: July 05, 2005 11:00 AM ET

NEW YORK The Washington Post, declaring Wednesday an "historic" day in the history of the press in America, suggested that perhaps the "leaker" of Valerie Plame's identity as a covert CIa operative was not a Bush administration official but a reporter (or reporters).

In a Wednesday A3 story, Carol Leonnig writes, "Sources close to the investigation say there is evidence in some instances that some reporters may have told government officials -- not the other way around -- that Wilson was married to Plame, a CIA employee."

She also revealed that colleagues of Matt Cooper, the Time who may be sent to jail Wednesday if he continues to refuse to testify to a grand jury, say "he is still struggling with his decision. For practical purposes, he cannot protect his sources because his publication has already turned over notes that identify them. But if Cooper cooperates, friends say, he fears his journalistic reputation will be tarnished. Time editors have told him they will respect whatever decision he makes, they said."

Leonnig also observed that at a lunch meeting on Tuesday with Washington Post reporters and editors, Karl Rove, who turned up as a source in Cooper's notes, declined to answer questions about the Plame case.

The reason I have my doubts is because the media was willing to use FAKE documents to try and stop the Bush re-election.....