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If you could change one moment in history

 
 
thethinkfactory
 
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Reply Wed 6 Jul, 2005 02:15 pm
Do you feel better?

You have taken a lot very personally. 4rmerEd simply stated what he would have liked to change. For you to simply call him ignorant isn't appropriate. I am certainly not a moderator here - but silence is complicency.

I do appreciate your post however - I used to take comments like that very personally, but now I know that TheThinkFactory (something I built and take a lot of pride in) isn;t what you have slandered it to be.

You don't know me, but I do hope your post allows you to feel better and I thank you for the lesson.

TTF
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spendius
 
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Reply Thu 7 Jul, 2005 05:52 am
TTF:-

I neither feel better nor worse.

I agree silence is complacency.To allow 4mrEd's 14 worder to stand would be complacency and as a regular television viewer I felt entitled to say my piece.

What would 4mrEd have liked to change?One assumes brains as puddings is a bad thing and thus it was a propaganda point in favour of scrapping television.Which is plain silly.One would feel obliged if recommending such a course to offer some alternative for the kids and,indeed,for adult viewers.With none forthcoming it could look like mindless vandalism.

I said nothing about the think factory other than that the posts I referred to did not sit easily with an organisation using that title.I hope your scheme prospers.It has a promising name and to fulfill that promise it must think rather than assert.
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thethinkfactory
 
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Reply Thu 7 Jul, 2005 08:34 am
Splen -

Great Reply. Thanks.

My God you don't know how accurate you are. Philosophy seems nearly a dead "art". When you open something up to the public it can be an assertion war if your are not careful with your moderation. However, if you 'over moderate' it does seem to become closer to preaching. I want neither. The last three years have been eye opening to say the least.

Have you ever read the book 'Born to Buy'. The argument that one million commercials by the time you are 8 yrs of age and the ability to name 200 brands by the time you are five speaks to the power of television. It, in Amererica, when the average american watches 4 hours a day, causes nearly mindless capitalists. Couple this with a marked drop in brain waves (Beta waves) and the argument that it turns minds to pudding might not be that far off.

Just my 2 pennies.

TTF
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spendius
 
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Reply Thu 7 Jul, 2005 12:29 pm
A mindless capitalist eh?

That's a neat phrase.
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thethinkfactory
 
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Reply Thu 7 Jul, 2005 06:40 pm
Sorry... was that redundant? Wink

TTF
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Contrarian2
 
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Reply Mon 18 Jul, 2005 05:57 pm
Re: If you could change one moment in history
CerealKiller wrote:
If you could change any one pivitol moment in history what would it be? Why would you change it? How do you think it would effect things today?


The birth of Karl Marx.
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4mrEd
 
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Reply Sun 24 Jul, 2005 03:04 am
thethinkfactory wrote:
It, in Amererica, when the average american watches 4 hours a day, causes nearly mindless capitalists.


No doubt, most capitalists are consumers. But the mindless reverse equation that consumers are capitalists simply demonstrates the pudding mentality I lamented.
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Cyracuz
 
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Reply Sun 24 Jul, 2005 08:16 am
Quote:
If you could change any one pivitol moment in history what would it be? Why would you change it? How do you think it would effect things today?


I'd have gone back in time and given Abel a gun so he could defend himself when Kain came... Smile
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xprmntr2
 
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Reply Tue 26 Jul, 2005 04:17 pm
Quote:
If you could change any one pivitol moment in history what would it be? Why would you change it? How do you think it would effect things today?


Charles Darwin shoulda been stillborn. What a sterile theory. Nothing but matter and chance. Variations of the old primitive notion of Spontaneous Generation.

As if anything beautiful has ever been created merely by chance! As if the magnificence of our minds and consciousness could've arisen by chance and from sheer matter! Stuff for a cabaret act. Anybody who builds or paints or invents or sculpts or does any other kind of creating will KNOW that there's no way beauty just sorta plops out of nowhere.

No, I don't have a religious axe to grind. I'm just using my common sense and my senses; look around you, you just can't MISS the fact that MIND permeates the whole universe.

Contrarian2 wrote:
The birth of Karl Marx.


Yeah, him, too. Another one of those Beauty-Killers. ARRRGGHHHH! Anybody care to speculate why the 19th century produced all these dust-brained "thinkers"? I keep scratching my head about that.

4mrEd wrote:
The invention of television. Propaganda device; makes minds into pudding; bad influence on kids.


I noticed you got clobbered pretty bad for that statement, Mr. Ed. I was just over at the Science & Math forum, where PlainOldMe basically added fuel to your argument. (I won't repeat here the entry I posted there. Don't want to bore anybody.) But anyway, I just thought you'd like to know that not everybody agrees with the ButtHat and the UnSplendid one.
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rosborne979
 
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Reply Tue 26 Jul, 2005 09:50 pm
The further back you reach in time, the more the present would be changed by small events, so I wouldn't reach back too far. One nudge of an asteroid might have saved the dinosaurs and prevented us from being here to ask this question.

But if I could do it, I think I would save the Challenger space shuttle.
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pragmatic
 
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Reply Tue 26 Jul, 2005 09:52 pm
Re: If you could change one moment in history
Contrarian2 wrote:
The birth of Karl Marx.


WHAT? Why!? Shocked
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Grand Duke
 
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Reply Tue 26 Jul, 2005 10:44 pm
I'd vote for the US War of Independence.

"Come to America - the largest county in the UK"
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pragmatic
 
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Reply Wed 27 Jul, 2005 12:10 am
Grand Duke wrote:
I'd vote for the US War of Independence.

"Come to America - the largest county in the UK"


Laughing ahahahahaha, as well as:

"The largest country in the EU"
"The richest country in the EU" (possibily)
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4mrEd
 
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Reply Wed 27 Jul, 2005 01:25 pm
xprmntr2 wrote:
4mrEd wrote:
The invention of television. Propaganda device; makes minds into pudding; bad influence on kids.


But anyway, I just thought you'd like to know that not everybody agrees with the ButtHat and the UnSplendid one.


[chuckling] A2K would seem to consist 90% of clone-thinkers. I'm quite sure that if my signature had been neutral or pro-Left, the 2 apparatchiks wouldn't have spouted their venom.
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