Moishe3rd wrote:brahmin wrote:Moishe3rd wrote:In the perspective of history, Judaism has not been murdering people for the last 1900 years or so.
Christianity largely stopped murdering people about 100 years or so ago (Yes, the Nazis were descendants of Chrisitianity, but we're talking about religious policy here).
Islam has never stopped murdering people.
Up until about 150 years? ago, Hinduism simply shifted its murderous ways to ritualistic sacrifice as opposed to conquest by the sword.
All religions, and indeed, all cultures and nationalities, have indeed promoted death and destruction at one point or another.
As far as I can see, Islam is the only religion currently practicing and promoting this kind of barbarism....
firstly i never said jews murdered anyone ever.
nazis were christians, as were the guys who carried out the inquisiton in europe and in india, and so were also the guys who committed the genocide in north and south america and australia and new zealand and uprooted the native religions and cultures and forced christianity on them, by hook, crook or left hook.
secondly hindus never convert anyone, in any way. one is born a hindu or not. sacrifice forms 1/1000th part of the entire gamut of hindu rituals and rites.
i maintain - its only the SECONDARY abrahamic religions - that have killed people by the millions just cos those people were of a different faith.
I wasn't being contentious here, but the fact is (and I am an Orthodox Jew), Judaism was not quite as enlightened, from a 21st century perspective, 2,000 years ago, as it is now. There was a lot of fratricidal homicide going on back then, not to mention conquests, etc.
I was merely trying to place into historical perspective the various barbarisms of the various religions. My main point was that Islam is the only one of these religions currently practicing this kind of barbaric homicide...
right then we were talking past each other.
i meant to say no matter how much jews fought amongst themselves or with moabites, amelekites, medianites and such like - they never really put other to the sword to force their religion on others or because they dont like the other guys religion. all (or most) in self defence or just normal fight between 2 people. if you are telling em judaism wasnt as enlightened back 2000 years ago i wont disagree with you and not blame judaism either. they cant be expected to - they come from a tribe - fighting fir its survival with other tribes in a harsh enviornment - and not a civilization, and some hard elements are bound to remain, all the more so if you come from one of the roughest part of the world (for eg, if buddhism came from the mongolian or uzbeg tribe, and was founded on the bad lands of sub sahara, i very much doubt it would be a religion of "not-killing-living-beings"....everyone is a child of the enviornment and way of life - which could be tribal or settled-by-a-river or in between) and not some fertile river bed. as their interaction grew, so did their er.. "softness".
yes islam could be the only one still preacticing, and i never disagreed and never said that christians still have a few inquisitions going.
what i said is that either of these 2 secondary abrahamic religions have been on one or both sides of almost all large scale religious carnage. despite the fact that their parent religion never killed much (or at all).
prove me wrong.
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