The End of Evolution Indoctrination in Kansas

blueveinedthrobber wrote:

I would really like to meet you gunga, I truly would.

What are the museum hours?

That must be the most intelligent and witty post I've ever read!!!

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I can only quote my favourite American at these times:

'They're not in danger of discovering that their ancestors were apes, but of being overtaken by them'.

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And Wilso, we need a more up-to-date photo of that infant!!!

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Mr Stillwater wrote:

And Wilso, we need a more up-to-date photo of that infant!!!

I haven't got a working scanner at the moment, but she's 4 and absolutely gorgeous. And her baby sister (now 20 months) is beautiful too.

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As if people from Arkansas don't have a bad enough reputation: Scientist discovers that evolution is missing from Arkansas classrooms.

It's a long article, but very interesting.

It seems that teachers at some schools are forbidden to use the word evolution in the classroom.

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They are permitted to use the word "adaptation" but only to refer to a current characteristic of an organism, not as a product of evolutionary change via natural selection. They cannot even use the term "natural selection." Bob feared that not being able to use evolutionary terms and ideas to answer his students' questions would lead to reinforcement of their misconceptions.

But Bob's personal issue was more specific, and the prohibition more insidious. In his words, "I am instructed NOT to use hard numbers when telling kids how old rocks are. I am supposed to say that these rocks are VERY VERY OLD ... but I am NOT to say that these rocks are thought to be about 300 million years old."

And that seems to be because ...

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The explanation that had been given to Bob by his supervisors was that their science facility is in a delicate position and must avoid irritating some religious fundamentalists who may have their fingers on the purse strings of various school districts.

see from the Arkansas Times: The missing link - Scientist discovers that evolution is missing from Arkansas classrooms.

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By the Heathen God that named thee
And the Living God that made thee
You're a loonie goose than I
Gunga Din ! ! !

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Walter Hinteler wrote:

It seems that teachers at some schools are forbidden to use the word evolution in the classroom.

The closing paragraph was concise...

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Now this takes us smack dab back to the early 1900's.

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fm wrote-

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The American people basically do not want their children being indoctrinated in left-wing pinko ideological doctrines which masqerade as scientific theories, particularly when those doctrines have patholotical social effects.

Listen fm.You are being challenged on the pathological social effects as I've been try to drill into your cranium all along.Answer the challenge just for once if only as an exercise in proper conversation.

Are you claiming that evolution represents the cute,pretty,pretty roses round the door,virgin bride ideal that we all love so much or is it the crude,animalistic,"let the big guy" do his thing type of scientific operation so common in the non-human world.

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Watch our FM, there's somethin' mangy nippin at yer heals.

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spendi. I was quoting gwanga in that post. Do you know how these gizmos work? Youve captured my tag line which said, in effect, "THE FOLLOWING IS A QUOTE FROM GUNGA SNAKE!! K?

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ros wrote-

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Watch our FM, there's somethin' mangy nippin at yer heals.

Neat Freudian slip there ros.

Still waiting on fm though.

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Evolution is taught here in the UK, yet we clearly don't see any social pathologies. Take Japan, for instance. It's taught there too, yet you'll find they're very polite to each other and the society hasn't crumbled into an evil Nazi society.

Spendi, your argument concerning the social impact of evolution theory being taught is non-existent at best.

If you say we should stop Evolution being taught because a minority might use it as an excuse to saying Nazism is good, then I must insist that we force people to stop being Christian and Muslims, because there are a minority that use Christian doctrines as an excuse to be homophobic bigots, an excuse for being racist and there are a minority that use Muslims doctrines as an excuse to wage all-out terrorism against innocent people.

I say, stop the Christian and Muslim indoctrination of people! Why? Because a minority of people use these religions as an excuse to do evil!

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Religion only exists because of the indoctrination of children. If it wasn't introduced to people until the age of 30, they'd laugh at how religionists can be such complete and total fruitcakes.

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Wolf wrote-

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Spendi, your argument concerning the social impact of evolution theory being taught is non-existent at best.

I do believe you fail to understand my position but I'll allow that you are in the majority on here doing so.

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spendius wrote:

Wolf wrote-

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Spendi, your argument concerning the social impact of evolution theory being taught is non-existent at best.

I do believe you fail to understand my position but I'll allow that you are in the majority on here doing so.

No, I understand your position very well. I merely do not think that it is well thought out nor does is it grounded in reality. As I pointed out in my lampoon, all of the arguments you made for Evolution not being taught can apply to people being allowed to worship their Christianity or Islam.

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Wolf wrote-

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Evolution is taught here in the UK, yet we clearly don't see any social pathologies.

Even allowing that we don't see any social pathologies in the UK,which is very doubtful,and that we can define what the phrase "Evolution is taught" means your statement exists in a vacuum.
It has assumed the teaching is aimed at clean slate minds and that is not the case.

Saying what you said there satisfies me that you have no understanding of my position.None.That you think you do has nothing to do with me.And it follows from that that you are not qualified to comment on how well thought out my position is nor on whether it is grounded in reality.

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spendi, then you should learn how to become a better writer. If you are the only one who understands you, then the problem isnt us.

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The problem fm,if I may once again question your facile presumptions,is that the subject is too sensitive to allow of anything other than nods and winks and the hope that one's audience is cute enough to get the drift. I agree personal self-satisfaction gets in the way of that but some members of the audience might not have such a self-defeating propensity. I don't do "posts" as such.I do a thesis. If you took the trouble to study Stendhal's Life of Rossini or De L'Amour you will see the method.

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see what I mean?

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