Can Atheists learn to speak Theist?

praying to God puts you in a certain immediacy..

You only think it's good information. Your problem is you don't know about Christianity itself. You've been spoon fed a load of nonsense and lack the intellectual curiosity to go any further.

Not only that you've allowed your fascist thinking to distort and demean what truth may be left.

You know nothing about Gnostic Christianity but won't even ask what it is. There's all this other stuff out there about Jesus, but you're not interested, because that would involve thinking.

15And He said to them, “Go into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature. 16Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned.…

By that logic, it is possible for someone who is truly atheist in their beliefs about reality to learn the language of religion(s) and understand the meanings therein without necessarily becoming convinced of the existence of a creator.

Doing so, however, would require atheists to bracket their interest in subverting theism and anything else derived from religious culture; so the question becomes whether there are any atheists who would ever be willing to put their opposition to religion aside in order to simply understand religion and communicate with believers in a way that respects what those believers understand and mean with the language and concepts they use, which are derived from religious culture.

An angel, for example, doesn't need to have wings or even exist in a dimensional way to be an agent of spiritual action. An angel can be a convergent of seemingly-disjunct occurrences that result in an effect. Many people can't understand things like this because they go beyond the level where you can visually identify entities as having contiguous bodies with volume/shape/etc.

I have plenty of positive posts out there. I admit not many with you, but that's because of your far right agenda which you came at A2K up and running.

I wouldn't mind if you could argue your case, but you really can't. Most of your arguments are based on simplistic assumptions that everyone else has to accept. When people refuse to do that you get stroppy and fall back on more dogma.

You mean like Hesiod's Chaos, which is both a place and a personification of the place. He begot concepts such as Gaia, Tartarus (which figures into the Greek portion of the Bible) and Eros which are also personifications thereof.

Communicating good information is a good deed.

Hating and/or getting annoyed at preachers is the same basic reaction that happens to people who hate and get annoyed learning math.

InfraBlue wrote:

You mean like Hesiod's Chaos, which is both a place and a personification of the place. He begot concepts such as Gaia, Tartarus (which figures into the Greek portion of the Bible) and Eros which are also personifications thereof.

Are these things you truly believe in and/or worship? Or do you just 'like' them because you find them interesting or because they symbolize things that resonate with your social-political values?

A US interracial couple was turned away by a wedding venue because the owner said their union went against her Christian beliefs, video shows.

The footage was filmed at Boone's Camp Event Hall in Booneville, Mississippi, by the groom's sister who met the woman about the rejection.

During the exchange the owner says the decision was because we "don't do gay weddings or mixed race".

The owner apologised in a now-deleted Facebook post.

The video was first reported by website Deep South Voice, and quickly went viral on social media.

LaKambria Welch said her brother and his partner were first told in an email the venue was not prepared to host the event. So Ms Welch went down in person to find out more.

"First of all, we don't do gay weddings or mixed race," says a woman in a grey shirt, identified as the venue's owner by US media.

Asked why not, she replied: "Because of our Christian race, I mean our Christian beliefs," adding: "We just don't participate. We just choose not to."


When asked what passage of the Bible informs that belief, the owner adds: "I don't want to argue my faith."

You call me 'far right,' but to me 'far right' is used to describe things like nazism and the KKK, which are socialist/fascist movements, not movements that honor the principles of liberty, democracy, etc.

You really are poorly educated/indoctrinated. You are far right like The Nazis and the KKK. And you have no concept of what Socialism is.

Socialism gave us the NHS which means that poor children are given the treatment they need instead of letting them die from neglect like you do in America.

How does allowing children to die unnecessarily honour liberty and democracy? At the same time you can explain what is so democratic about allowing big business to add 250+ carcinogenic food additives to your children's diet, not to mention bleach.

Socialism lifts people out of poverty and squallor, it gives them dignity, decent housing, healthcare and a good education. That's why Jesus, and all true Christians, are Socialist.

Parents are responsible for their children. They are not the collective responsibility of the state.

livinglava wrote:

Parents are responsible for their children. They are not the collective responsibility of the state.

That's a very callous inhumane attitude to take.

The problem with your religion is it's immoral, unethical and selfish.

It's not Atheists that are the problem, it's pseudo Christians like yourself.

A Brother Who Sins

15If your brother sins against you,c go and confront him privately. If he listens to you, you have won your brother over. 16But if he will not listen, take one or two others along, so that ‘every matter may be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses.’d 17If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church. And if he refuses to listen even to the church, regard him as you would a pagan or a tax collector.

18Truly I tell you, whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.

19Again, I tell you truly that if two of you on the earth agree about anything you ask for, it will be done for you by My Father in heaven. 20For where two or three gather together in My name, there am I with them.”

Humans are naturally sinful. That is a fundamental confession in Christianity. Once you accept that humans are imperfect sinners, you can begin the hard uphill struggle to accept forgiveness and reform.