The genders reversed?

Perhaps so, Cyracuz. It's still an open-ended thing, I guess.

The mind--the imagination--the emotions. All defy any attempt at research, I think.

Re: The genders reversed?


What gives you this incredibly bizarre notion?



We have a dangling sack, collection of macrophages and an elongated urethra. It's hardly a balcony overlooking the seafront.

Need I mention that women have about 3 more internal organs than men and the same number of external ones?



Unless all women acquired downsyndrome whilst I wasn't paying attention they have no additional chromosomes. Whilst our species is indeed gender bimorphic we're not that different.



Not really, I have the marvellous fallback of "dude" and "chick" ready and waiting to use in such a nomenclative emergency.

Interesting

This is really an interesting topic.

The war of the sexes has been going on since the beginning of time. I wonder where we stand today, on a world-wide scale. Let's not forget that the way we think today has been influenced by centuries of history where men were the dominating species. Why is that? And I didn't mention the parts of the world where it applies even today…

To make the debate interesting, I'd have to mention the Da Vinci Code, where the problem is thoroughly explained… but maybe I'll take this to the Books forum…

Marquis de Carabas wrote:


The fact that all humans are females in the first few weeks after it is concieved. I saw a tv program about a woman who was actually a man. That is, she has the genes of a man, so after those first few weeks in the womb, the switch went on, and the development of testosteron should trigger the male sex organs. But there was a flaw in her system, her body didn't react to testosteron, so she became a woman after all. That gave me that "incredibly bizarre" notion.

Also, ever since scientists figured out how to impregnate an egg cell using ordinairy body cells, the male is no longer neccesary for the spawning of new children. Of course, with body cells from females impregnating egg cells it would never become a man.

So women can make children without men, but men can't do it without women. Not yet anyway.

So you're saying that the fact that someone is a woman/man is a bizarre accident? or coincidence?

I think it has more to do with how you see yourself... there are many cases of a woman trapped in a man's body or vice-versa. Of course, education and how people treat you, especially during your childhood plays a major role.

It's just like any other physical characteristic we have... it depends on how you... ahem... put it to use

No, it's predetermined what sex you will be. But even if you are predetermined to become a man, you are still a woman first.

I have not taken mental issues into consideration. Only physical.

If you don't take the mental issues into consideration then the fact that we are all women first is irrelevant.

Following the same principle, we are all stardust first.... The important issue is what we become...

Freelancer wrote:


No. You started talking about how you see yourself, about women trapped in men's bodies, education and childhood events, and that is irrelevant. Before any of that can take place your body has to be developed. You need to be born first. I am talking pre-birth. Biology, not psychology.

The things you mention are merely results of a flawed perception of reality.

What I was saying was that pre-birth is not relevant. Like I said, we are all stardust first. Why is it important that biologically, before we develop psychologically, we are all women?

It makes no difference. If we dig down even further, we are all hydrogen, oxygen, carbon and a trace of other elements....

Not relevant? Physical development of gender was the intention of this thread. I should know. I started it. On this basis alone did the idea come of the genders reversed. But it's more of a semantics thing I guess.

By your logic we were all stardust. I can relate to that, although it is a different discussion. But if I was stardust at some point, I am still stardust now. Or I am a gathering of elements, like you said. But as such I go through many stages, and my desire in this thread was to focus on the post concievment/ pre birth stage.

I'd be happy to discuss the other stages with you. I just wanted to clarify my intentions with this thread.